Something you won't find in your mainstream media

[Shuffler]

Criminals do not care about laws or taxes. Make criminals pay for their crimes and quit supporting the.

[Arlo]

Criminals do not care about laws or taxes. Make criminals pay for their crimes and quit supporting the.

Which is a total beside the point, regarding mass shootings.

[nrshida]

Inanimate objects all that can do nothing at all unless a human being uses it.  I'm afraid you don't get the point.

Bit of a weird proposition. It is surely the access to the (mostly) inanimate objects by people with murderous intent which makes for a deadly combination.

You're probably younger then me and don't have the scope and views of the changes of societies as older people who lived then, through time, until now.

I'm a bit lost here. Are you asserting that wisdom is automatically acquired by age? Does the scope afforded to you from experience of the past present solutions for the near future?

[FLS]

Some people are confused about what constitutes a well regulated militia. In colonial usage well regulated meant properly equipped. The militia is simply all military age men. The second amendment says that all men of military age should be well equipped with weapons for war and personal defense. Then it says Congress can't change that.

[Arlo]

In colonial usage well regulated meant properly equipped.

That is an interpretation that doesn't seem to have an firmly educated foundation.

https://www.pellcenter.org/a-well-regulated-militia/

[Shuffler]

Bit of a weird proposition. It is surely the access to the (mostly) inanimate objects by people with murderous intent which makes for a deadly combination.

The answer is to punish the people with murderous intent. The worse the punishment the better. Taking guns from law abiding folks is not the answer. Make the criminal pay dearly.

The San Francisco DA over in California chose to not punish criminals. Even the people who happily voted him into office were fed up with his support of criminals.

[Arlo]

The answer is to punish the people with murderous intent.

Isn't that a poorly written science fiction movie?

[Ramesis]

They are trying to make every shooting a mass shooting now in the media..

The shooting in Philly is an example of this..

Not a mass shooting just the regulars doing their regular street justice with the public in the middle

https://youtu.be/Ubekfg4PC7s

To compare this to the school shooting is sick IMO

Eagler

AND, no matter how inconsequential, everything is a crisis these days 

[Ramesis]

The Second Amendment is about a well regulated militia. Those are actually the first for words and the reasoning for the right to keep and bear arms. It predated a national federal military, funded and equipped through federal tax dollars. I'm not into dystopian fear fanfic.

And what is a militia composed of?
 

[Ramesis]

That is an interpretation that doesn't seem to have an firmly educated foundation.

https://www.pellcenter.org/a-well-regulated-militia/

Hmmm, interpretation by whom? You, I, republicans, democrats, etc.
I say not, that is the purview of the scotus and no one else (at least for the moment)
 
 

[Busher]

Which is a total beside the point, regarding mass shootings.

It's always struck me odd that the right to own a weapon was written when those same weapons had a fire rate of 3 to 5 rounds per minute and had an effective range of 100 yards.
Clearly the weapons have changed... but any discussions regarding any changes to the "RIGHT" hit a brick wall.

[Arlo]

It's always struck me odd that the right to own a weapon was written when those same weapons had a fire rate of 3 to 5 rounds per minute and had an effective range of 100 yards.
Clearly the weapons have changed... but any discussions regarding any changes to the "RIGHT" hit a brick wall.

A lot of angry ammosexuals out there. Some seem not to realize that all it takes are a few bad apples (many of which have no criminal record or documented mental conditions or even easily exposed mental triggers) to ruin things for everyone. Legislation was never meant to freeze all amendments in granite, anyhow. Amendments can be amended. The Constitution was written to facilitate that. But then, the art (skill? ability?) of legislation for the good of the general welfare of the public is apparently passe'.

[Arlo]

And what is a militia composed of?
 

Currently (unless you're in a hillbilly militia - all they do is get excited firing lots of ammo real fast) that would be the National Guard (citizen soldiers, well equipped and ... well regulated).

[decoy]

Everyone seems to be ignoring the SCOTUS decision in the case of Washington D.C. v Heller when the court ruled that the right to keep and bear arms did, in fact, reside in individual citizens, without regard to any affiliation with the National Guard or the U.S. Army Reserve.

End of story. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

[Arlo]

Everyone seems to be ignoring the SCOTUS decision in the case of Washington D.C. v Heller when the court ruled that the right to keep and bear arms did, in fact, reside in individual citizens, without regard to any affiliation with the National Guard or the U.S. Army Reserve.

End of story. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

No, everybody isn't. SCOTUS can't amend. So, not end of story.