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Offline nrshida

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #465 on: June 23, 2022, 02:42:39 AM »
But I think this is more likely:  If there were another civil war in the US, it would be a diffuse guerilla war.  Not rifles vs. Apaches.

Which manufacturers currently make their ammunition from a hidden, hardened bunker?  :old:

There's a lot of innocents out there. It is obviously a better place to put energy to ensure that never happens. That takes discourse not more division. Watch babies die in a NICU that makes you reconsider a lot of things.


I don't think it is the primary focus for most Americans.

I wasn't talking about individuals so much there as the large entities. Where is the accountability, balance and democracy at that level?


Might as well argue with a tape recorder.

I don't know if this comment is directed to me. I have been trying to think on my feet and not repeat myself and of course can be wrong about a lof of things. I'm reminded of that cartoon with two windows in a post office sort of setting. One counter has the sign "What you need to hear" and has no queue. The other says "What you want to hear" and has a long queue. I did say honesty tends to get one in way more trouble than lying  :rofl

I've actually found it quite fascinating to have these discussions here where previously a lightening bolt would have preceded the commical smoking pair of shoes in a post PNG-stylee. I don't know if the Dale God-Entity is indisposed or doesn't care anymore. We can only hope he's not sitting in the toilet obsessively polishing his M1 Garand with a maniacal grin on his face otherwise some of us are going to be running in zig-zags pretty quickly. Maybe for only a short-while if he's got his lead down. Bang! Bang! Clink!

Just a few general remarks before I shortly become absorbed in my next obsessive project to the great relief of some of you I'm sure:

Assuming people who don't agree with you given the same starting point and data are stupid is wrong and closes productive discussion. Better to discuss why they've concluded differently maybe you or they missed something. There's not one solution to things that's intolerance. Understand what argument (in both forms), discussion and debate means. There is no ugly discussion, only discussion. Just as a US Bradley might have a photograph of Rommel on its bulkhead. It doesn't matter who has said something they could be wrong. Equally a non-expert might make very good points about a topic, often because they are free from indoctrination.

I was once within range of American broadcasts back in the 80s. There was an advert for the US Army" "Be, all that you can be" does anyone remember that? Well I was too young and too not-an-American to join the US Army but that suggestion has accompanied me ever since. There can be a sort of nobility about America and don't let Zack tell you differently. There may be troubles ahead. Your constitution - although releatively recent - has been very influential on a lot of the world. How in the hell do you suppose it's all going to hold together if you can't hold it together. Earn it.

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #466 on: June 23, 2022, 03:24:24 AM »
Which manufacturers currently make their ammunition from a hidden, hardened bunker?  :old:

There's a lot of innocents out there. It is obviously a better place to put energy to ensure that never happens. That takes discourse not more division. Watch babies die in a NICU that makes you reconsider a lot of things.


I wasn't talking about individuals so much there as the large entities. Where is the accountability, balance and democracy at that level?


I don't know if this comment is directed to me. I have been trying to think on my feet and not repeat myself and of course can be wrong about a lof of things. I'm reminded of that cartoon with two windows in a post office sort of setting. One counter has the sign "What you need to hear" and has no queue. The other says "What you want to hear" and has a long queue. I did say honesty tends to get one in way more trouble than lying  :rofl

I've actually found it quite fascinating to have these discussions here where previously a lightening bolt would have preceded the commical smoking pair of shoes in a post PNG-stylee. I don't know if the Dale God-Entity is indisposed or doesn't care anymore. We can only hope he's not sitting in the toilet obsessively polishing his M1 Garand with a maniacal grin on his face otherwise some of us are going to be running in zig-zags pretty quickly. Maybe for only a short-while if he's got his lead down. Bang! Bang! Clink!

Just a few general remarks before I shortly become absorbed in my next obsessive project to the great relief of some of you I'm sure:

Assuming people who don't agree with you given the same starting point and data are stupid is wrong and closes productive discussion. Better to discuss why they've concluded differently maybe you or they missed something. There's not one solution to things that's intolerance. Understand what argument (in both forms), discussion and debate means. There is no ugly discussion, only discussion. Just as a US Bradley might have a photograph of Rommel on its bulkhead. It doesn't matter who has said something they could be wrong. Equally a non-expert might make very good points about a topic, often because they are free from indoctrination.

I was once within range of American broadcasts back in the 80s. There was an advert for the US Army" "Be, all that you can be" does anyone remember that? Well I was too young and too not-an-American to join the US Army but that suggestion has accompanied me ever since. There can be a sort of nobility about America and don't let Zack tell you differently. There may be troubles ahead. Your constitution - although releatively recent - has been very influential on a lot of the world. How in the hell do you suppose it's all going to hold together if you can't hold it together. Earn it.

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Too many paragraphs…fact

It’s immaterial what I think of the Yanks.

They won WWII not the British they waited to join until we were bankrupt and they had all our gold reserves…FACT

The Americans with the Marshall plan kept Western Civilisation going, no one in the West of any worth defected to the Soviet system.

The communists killed more people than the facists fact.

They had a longer time scale to carry out its nonsense.

The internet has now allowed those who care to read between the lines to see the Politicals are liars, traitors and potatomongers.

The US has sold its honour  to the Chinese for coin while it’s own gain their world view from Don Lemon.

Politicals who have never done a days work in their lives.

Apparently it’s all Trumps fault.

You lot bored of the Ukraine story yet?

Your masters were a bit anoyed the Monkey pox paranoia never took hold.

Give it another year when Bill Gates crashes the internet and you lot are using candles and eating turnips

Why did the US invade Iraq when it was the Saudi backed terrorists who attacked the Twin Towers?

Why did Russia and Assad in Syria destroy ISiS not the yanks?

Pakistan hid Bin Ladin and the Yanks assassinated him.

Why did they not bring him to a court? Hilary Clinton was relieved….FACT

And the stupid Europeans thinking the hyper inflation in the US will not affect them :)

Lets see how liberal Shida is when that arrives.

By the way the Biden gang overseen by Clinton has created the inflation not big cake hole trump or Covid.

Why did they put Trillions into the economy to help poor people…grow up
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #467 on: June 23, 2022, 04:15:00 AM »
Lots of truth there from Zack.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money.  - Margaret Thatcher

Liberals are soon to find that out with the way this economy is going.

And wth:  https://www.statista.com/chart/27278/military-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/

US has given 10x that of UK, and Poland more than Germany! That’s not even up to date as US doubled that to $50+ billion in the last ~month with more coming.

Guessing Germany’s green energy projects are more important.

Europe convinced the world (again) this is a righteous fight, so go fight it.
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #468 on: June 23, 2022, 05:59:56 AM »
Zach has listed a page for the OP

Nrshida has wasted a page of text again

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #469 on: June 23, 2022, 07:36:01 AM »
Green? Germany, Netherlands, and Austria have reverted back to coal for energy. More countries to come.... most likely.
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #470 on: June 23, 2022, 02:14:42 PM »
Which manufacturers currently make their ammunition from a hidden, hardened bunker?  :old:

If rebels in third-world jungles can get ammo, it would be impossible to keep from Americans.  For many reasons.  First, they already have huge amounts of it.  Second, if ammo is made anywhere, people can get it.  It's like drugs, which can't be kept out federal prisons, let alone out of the entire country.  Third, there would be factions outside the US that would be willing to support any given side.

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There's a lot of innocents out there. It is obviously a better place to put energy to ensure that never happens. That takes discourse not more division.

Yes.  But history has cases where sides won't move enough for a deal, and it falls to war as the decider.

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I wasn't talking about individuals so much there as the large entities. Where is the accountability, balance and democracy at that level?

Businesses should work for profit, within rule of law and free markets.  People using their free will and own judgement decide to buy or not to buy -- that is fully democratic.  Businesses that don't do what people want go out of business -- that is accountability.

It is human nature to hate someone who hates you first.  Businesses that inject their morals contribute to divisiveness and conflict.

I would be happy to have you as a customer, friend, fellow pilot, etc. even if your political views are at odds with mine.  But if I instead refuse to sell you anything, refuse to associate with you, call you a bad person -- we go from being able to work together to being enemies who can't.

That's a dynamic in the US.

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #471 on: June 23, 2022, 02:25:53 PM »
Both sides think the other side is the stupid easy to beat side. There's a recipe for peaceful resolution...

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #472 on: June 23, 2022, 03:22:57 PM »
Winchester is currently running the military production site, but their current production will not work in civilian firearms.

Regardless, it is possible today to print cartridges. Primers can be made from soda cans, or sardine tins. Bullets can easily be cast.
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #473 on: June 23, 2022, 04:31:57 PM »
Both sides think the other side is the stupid easy to beat side. There's a recipe for peaceful resolution...

Too busy on that tape recorder to put time aside to figure that resolution out.  :old:
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #474 on: June 23, 2022, 04:42:13 PM »
Both sides think the other side is the stupid easy to beat side. There's a recipe for peaceful resolution...

Compromise? In the USA? Give your head a shake :rofl
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #475 on: June 23, 2022, 05:37:17 PM »
The Jan 6 CMTE public hearing on FAUX News. With each hearing, the hole being dug by the actions of the ex Prez is getting deeper.

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #476 on: June 23, 2022, 07:22:53 PM »
The Jan 6 CMTE public hearing on FAUX News. With each hearing, the hole being dug by the actions of the ex Prez is getting deeper.

It’s on FAUX News because it’s a dog and pony show, is FAUX accusations and meant to distract from the imploding economy & failing administration.

It will result in nothing (except wasted $) as per usual with the side putting this show on.

With your “outside perspective” you learned nothing from Russia Russia Russia, Marsha.  :rolleyes:

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They're casting their bait over there, see?

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #477 on: June 23, 2022, 08:06:28 PM »
It’s on FAUX News because it’s a dog and pony show, is FAUX accusations and meant to distract from the imploding economy & failing administration.

It will result in nothing (except wasted $) as per usual with the side putting this show on.

With your “outside perspective” you learned nothing from Russia Russia Russia, Marsha.  :rolleyes:

No Sir, in fact it is an display of corroborated documents and testimony. It provides evidence, not judgement. Choose to ignore it and you among others confirm you allegiance to a man ahead of the Constitution.
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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #478 on: June 23, 2022, 08:19:29 PM »
It's the same people that tried to sell the Russian collusion BS. They're playing to the CNN MSNBC crowd but it's a small crowd, nobody cares.

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Re: Something you won't find in your mainstream media
« Reply #479 on: June 23, 2022, 08:21:08 PM »
It's the same people that tried to sell the Russian collusion BS. They're playing to the CNN MSNBC crowd but it's a small crowd, nobody cares.

The FBI?