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Offline RotBaron

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Re: Lots of good points!
« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2022, 04:09:55 AM »
In case you’ve never actually read them:

The following text is a transcription of the first ten amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights."

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Amendment VII

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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Re: Lots of good points!
« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2022, 05:53:28 AM »
Trump is no longer relevant :rofl

Spoilt paranoid liberals flogging a dead horse because the US economy is in the Toilet and China are in charge…fact

If you have investments based on Chinese labour you ARE a traitor to your country….Fact

You are a Traitor!

Levi’s jeans are made in?…..China

Obama put race relations back 50 years, his wife goes on tours, for doing what?

White liberal women fawning over Obama because their manicurist and home help voted for him :rofl

Biden and Clinton were good friends with leaders of the KKK…Fact

Best thing on TV was that physco Hilary falling over, how dare the masses not do as they are told

White women voting for a woman because she was a Woman :rofl

China and Russia do as they please, because the US is worried about Polar bears and Lady boys.

Oh no the world must be ending!

More zach facts I agree 100% with!

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Re: Lots of good points!
« Reply #77 on: June 16, 2022, 07:12:39 AM »
Yes, I'm aware of the mulford act. It was a bipartisan act. Introduced by a Republican and signed by Republican Governor but passed by a majority Democrat controlled government..

That doesn't change the fact that it's liberals that are constantly going after gun rights. That doesn't change the fact that liberals are the ones that are the threat to me not Republicans..

And I'm a moderator at icom. I run the place I own the place. And I clearly stated that the places to have fun and to be good to each other. Those are the stipulations. You can have any political view you want but if you are an ass, you're going to be gone. Are you gone semp? No you're not are you? I didn't ban you.

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« Reply #78 on: June 16, 2022, 07:23:06 AM »
I wanted to add that the mulford act didn't outright ban people from carrying guns in public. It banned people from carrying guns in public openly without a license.

There are lots of conservative areas in California where you can carry a gun and you will get a license. Not in any liberal areas though.

That's not excusing the mulford act though. That was an irrational reaction to the black panthers. I mean they were openly going into courthouse and stocking police officers carrying weapons. They wanted to stop that and I can see why. Any rational person would want to stop an armed gang from doing what they were doing.

But it's dishonest for anyone to come here and say that the reason people cannot carry guns in California is because of Ronald Reagan..

Every single time any form of gun control comes up, I would say it's probably 100% Democrats trying to do it.

Democrats are also the ones that tax the crap out of me. They take money from me and give it to derelicts. Or themselves.

Yeah, San Francisco is a nice clean place samp. That's a riot right there.

I drive into Los Angeles almost every day. I would be more than happy to post a video of my drive along the routes I travel. Nothing but crap everywhere. People living in tents with garbage all over the streets people in tents on sidewalks on overpasses under the highway passes graffiti everywhere. And they even allow people to crap on the street. That is a fact..
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« Reply #79 on: June 16, 2022, 07:36:03 AM »
You missed. Gina would bein danger with those far Right guys.

You don't get any further right than me.  If G. Gordon Liddy isn't conservative enough for you, there's me.  And yet I'm neither racist, misogynistic, a white supremacist, or any kind of ---phobe.  But understand, I like Gina for how she is, not for who she is.  Her identity is important, because it makes her unique.  But because of how she is, I get to hear all sorts of stuff I would never hear if I lived in an echo chamber.
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« Reply #80 on: June 16, 2022, 07:54:23 AM »
G. Gordon Liddy, there's a name drop. He had an interesting career  :uhoh  :bolt:
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Re: Lots of good points!
« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2022, 07:56:52 AM »
You missed. Gina would bein danger with those far Right guys.

Uber far right nut job .... this poor trans woman must be in terror!!!!

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« Reply #82 on: June 16, 2022, 07:58:23 AM »
You don't get any further right than me.  If G. Gordon Liddy isn't conservative enough for you, there's me.  And yet I'm neither racist, misogynistic, a white supremacist, or any kind of ---phobe.  But understand, I like Gina for how she is, not for who she is.  Her identity is important, because it makes her unique.  But because of how she is, I get to hear all sorts of stuff I would never hear if I lived in an echo chamber.

Thank you.

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« Reply #83 on: June 16, 2022, 08:04:06 AM »
Whatever I say about Liberals, I do not think of individual people as my enemy. I like people and I don't care what beliefs they might have. I get along with anyone and people like me. I like people. I have a lot of fun interacting with my customers almost every day. Rarely do politics ever come up.

But ideologically, I believe that liberalism is mostly detrimental to myself and to this country. All you have to do is look around or listen to what they would like to do. In most cases, I could not be more opposed.

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« Reply #84 on: June 16, 2022, 08:26:44 AM »
Whatever I say about Liberals, I do not think of individual people as my enemy. I like people and I don't care what beliefs they might have. I get along with anyone and people like me. I like people. I have a lot of fun interacting with my customers almost every day. Rarely do politics ever come up.

But ideologically, I believe that liberalism is mostly detrimental to myself and to this country. All you have to do is look around or listen to what they would like to do. In most cases, I could not be more opposed.

What always strikes me is the predominance of bigotry which prevades what has become modern day "liberals".  Look at all the judgmentalism in this thread and pretty much all of it is from the self described liberals.  They are so sure of how bigoted the people they label and judge are that they can't possibly consider that their perception of those people is mostly the product of propaganda from their own echo chamber.  I miss the old days when Liberalism and Libertarianism used to be nearly one and them same. 

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Re: Lots of good points!
« Reply #85 on: June 16, 2022, 08:37:34 AM »
(Asks RR to watch Gina's 'good points' video [again?] and point out the supposed lack of hypocrisy evident in this political thread designed to 'own the libtards.')  :banana:

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« Reply #86 on: June 16, 2022, 08:44:17 AM »
What always strikes me is the predominance of bigotry which prevades what has become modern day "liberals".  Look at all the judgmentalism in this thread and pretty much all of it is from the self described liberals.  They are so sure of how bigoted the people they label and judge are that they can't possibly consider that their perception of those people is mostly the product of propaganda from their own echo chamber.  I miss the old days when Liberalism and Libertarianism used to be nearly one and them same.

I know that most people at FW are big-time conservative. I came out to them... when they knew me for some 15 years as a man. Most of them easily accepted me. I would say almost everyone did.

Of the few liberals on that forum, two of them said nasty things about me.

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« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2022, 08:46:11 AM »
But ideologically, I believe that liberalism is mostly detrimental to myself and to this country.

I do not get involved in political discussions here for many reasons. One is that I find most people here incapable of having the type of discussion I wish to have. The level of intellect and legitimate knowledge about political science and economics is wanting. An obvious deterrent for me is that it is against the rules. Having incriminated myself, I will continue to my point.

Liberalism is a funny word. In your sentence, it seems to be broad. But, it can be quite specific. Many Americans see Democrats as liberals. That's fair to a point, but the relationship is an umbrella. Like rectangles, Democrats are many shapes under a common umbrella. This is the downfall and the shortcomings of a bicameral system. There are many factions in both parties and many factions in the Democratic party despise the neoliberal movement because of its attachment to free enterprise as it pertains to liberties, among many others. The entire American population is liberal on some level. Think about the original ideas of liberalism and who was perpetuating it: Locke, Montesquieu, Madison, Jefferson (in many aspects but not all), Hobson, Constant. What exists now in American politics is not the same for we have achieved it. This is a liberal country where people have protected liberties and are represented properly. The "ideology" you mention and are referring to is what we call neoliberalism. It goes steps further than the simple ideas of due process, freedom of press, and social services.

On an economic and ideological level, neoliberalism is indeed destroying the state. Less regulation in the market, less state functionality in public sectors (which essentially means privatization of public institutions), all justified by the concept of freedom and application of said concept on an economic level. In what way is that leftist? That's not where my left-leaning tendencies take me. More capitalism is not what I signed up for yet much of the Democratic Party is neoliberal. In many areas, the most conservative economic models are aligned with neoliberal models (privatization, unregulated markets, tax cuts up top, basically all the fundamental Reaganomic foundations). For economically savvy Americans the problem is not one side or the other, it is both. So long as the wealthy are in control of policy, the lower class will get lower and the middle will continue to disappear.

Yet, people get all wound up about rights and liberties, inclusion, etc. Those are not pressing issues at all. People who are oppressive will get punished and that will always be the case. The issue is the dollar and how it makes its way around our country.
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« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2022, 09:03:24 AM »
I missed what?

How would she be in danger with them?

In looking them up I have yet to find any instance of them being convicted for violence. If you have a link showing them being convicted of violence while representing their group please post (some random bar fight with hearsay does not count).

I do not support what they believe, only supporting their 1st Amendment rights along with the rest of their rights as provided by the US Constitution.
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« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2022, 09:06:44 AM »
Tools used by our leaders to divide..and thus control us much more easily

Race
Religion
Abortion
Wealth
Sexual preference
Politics
and the latest one...covid

All while they make themselves richer destroying our financial system

DC is just two sides of the same coin flipped occasionally to help one side feel better over the other but nothing truly changes

And is why all the hub bub with tv trial to insure another outsider doesn't expose their corrupt party ever again..

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