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Re: gas
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2022, 08:08:19 AM »
And do what?

Make Lockheed  Martin happy

You cannot even employ your own people to make things.

You keep them on welfare

And give your enemy China the work

Sucker

A third of the people on welfare live in California, a state where they don't have enough water and they have regular power blackouts. They are also at risk from wild fires, earthquakes, and volcanos. It's like a service California provides for the rest of the country.

China is having a Bank Holiday at some branches.

Is it hot where you are?

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Re: gas
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2022, 08:12:17 AM »
In 1984, Carbondale, IL.  had 11 days of over 105 degree temperatures.........in a row

Six months earlier, the potomac river froze over.
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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2022, 08:13:00 AM »
I was joking, obviously. Biden blames "Putin's tax hike" for our inflation.

Really, OPEC and Russia and are the main reason for the price of oil. Gas is pretty much tied to oil prices, but there can be issues with refinery capacity.

During Covid, OPEC cut output by 10 million barrels a day because there was a glut. Suppliers couldn't store the oil and they got rid of it however they could. OPEC has not made up for the production yet. We are not back where we were. Also, markets affect oils prices. The Russian war caused a spike in market prices too.

It's stupid to say a President can affect gas prices in any significant way in the short term. The higher prices for oil are world-wide.

Long term, a President can affect prices. Like canceling pipelines, restricting oil and coal production, taxes, and a bunch of other things.

Prices will come back down eventually. Maybe not where they were for awhile.

The Biden administration is no friend to oil. Biden is preparing executive orders declaring a "climate emergency" I'm sure that will not help with the price of gas or energy.

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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2022, 08:17:35 AM »
A third of the people on welfare live in California, a state where they don't have enough water and they have regular power blackouts. They are also at risk from wild fires, earthquakes, and volcanos. It's like a service California provides for the rest of the country.

China is having a Bank Holiday at some branches.

Is it hot where you are?

Maybe by pure numbers. I'm not sure about that though. California has 40 million people - so maybe

Per capita, California is not even close.


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State
Food Stamps Recipients (2019)
Recipients Per 100K (2019)
Food Stamps Recipients (2018)
Recipients Per 100K (2018)

New Mexico   449,792   21,326   454,244   21,537
West Virginia   307,404   17,509   311,863   17,763
Louisiana   804,561   17,429   838,611   18,167
Mississippi   440,496   14,874   477,166   16,112
Alabama   718,792   14,522   748,755   15,127
Oklahoma   579,618   14,464   581,701   14,516
Illinois   1,778,953   14,211   1,783,389   14,247
Rhode Island   147,597   13,890   157,948   14,865
Pennsylvania   1,744,319   13,622   1,791,564   13,991
Oregon   584,077   13,504   612,249   14,155
New York   2,576,099   13,401   2,727,462   14,188
Nevada   419,832   12,963   434,898   13,429
Tennessee   882,622   12,606   938,986   13,411
Georgia   1,370,779   12,534   1,485,060   13,579
Florida   2,779,312   12,532   2,996,302   13,510
Delaware   121,987   12,216   136,252   13,644
Ohio   1,380,490   11,772   1,400,704   11,944
Arkansas   350,447   11,520   363,186   11,939
Maine   156,450   11,506   159,320   11,717
Michigan   1,143,900   11,444   1,217,499   12,181
Kentucky   504,584   11,245   577,565   12,871
Texas   3,348,300   11,125   3,610,340   11,995
Hawaii   155,061   11,062   161,354   11,511
Massachusetts   764,525   11,045   768,374   11,100
Missouri   678,388   10,969   713,151   11,531
South Carolina   585,252   10,955   623,283   11,667
Vermont   67,296   10,804   71,176   11,427
Arizona   795,313   10,409   834,518   10,922
Wisconsin   606,036   10,329   634,562   10,815
Connecticut   364,659   10,282   376,447   10,614
California   4,040,646   10,187   3,830,652   9,658
Washington   802,305   10,171   845,789   10,723
Alaska   73,130   10,146   71,775   9,958
Maryland   612,751   10,086   637,966   10,501
Iowa   306,940   9,669   332,595   10,477
Montana   105,667   9,667   109,420   10,010
South Dakota   78,854   8,737   82,566   9,148
Indiana   576,112   8,420   599,613   8,763
Nebraska   157,978   8,057   163,999   8,364
Virginia   695,004   8,046   715,559   8,284
New Jersey   682,734   7,697   731,983   8,252
Idaho   142,199   7,497   148,779   7,844
Colorado   439,390   7,371   461,659   7,745
Minnesota   398,706   6,946   422,573   7,362
Kansas   198,426   6,797   211,005   7,228
North Dakota   48,243   6,233   50,503   6,525
New Hampshire   73,416   5,326   79,727   5,784
Utah   165,374   4,917   178,812   5,317
Wyoming   25,564   4,391   27,448   4,714
North Carolina   


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Re: gas
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2022, 08:17:42 AM »
I am not on board with any agency trying to charge for carbon emissions.      None of the proponents seems to understand basic physics and the fact that everything is made of carbon.

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« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2022, 08:20:18 AM »
I am not on board with any agency trying to charge for carbon emissions.      None of the proponents seems to understand basic physics and the fact that everything is made of carbon.

Only a fool would be on board with any of this nonsense.

I'm not on board with forcing "green" energy down our throats either.
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« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2022, 08:47:59 AM »
So many glaring errors with those charts I don’t know where to begin. 

I’ve never seen milk as high or even close, I’ve not seen bread that low (not speaking only about where I live(d)).  2001 War in Afghanistan begins, 2014 War in Afghanistan ends… :headscratch:

Putin and US gas $ lol, ok, if you believe what’s coming out of 1600 Penn. Ave…well I guess you did believe what was emanating from a basement in Delaware.

how much do you pay for milk? around here unless you buy the overpriced organic, it's not really that expensive.

keep hearing that on Facebook, milk is so expensive but don't see it at the grocery stores.



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« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2022, 09:07:33 AM »
A third of the people on welfare live in California, a state where they don't have enough water and they have regular power blackouts. They are also at risk from wild fires, earthquakes, and volcanos. It's like a service California provides for the rest of the country.

China is having a Bank Holiday at some branches.

Is it hot where you are?

I shower almost every day but hate to waste water. so I spend about 2 minutes with the water running.  as for the fires, a good portion are on federal land and guess who's budget keeps getting cut. earthquakes will be like blaming Florida for having hurricanes and they cause a lot more damage.

volcanos? the closest one is mount Wilshire and it's in the middle of Hollywood. still active I think.  don't know.

power blackouts think we have had 3 around here in the past 3 years. 2 happened last month on the same day and lasted a few seconds.  what we have is brownouts,  rolling brownouts but not that common and it doesn't cover entire cities.



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« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2022, 09:51:13 AM »
I don't remember the last time I've had a power outage anywhere I've been. Or an earthquake. I mean we get lots of little earthquakes but nothing that does anything more than just make you aware that there was something going on. Most of the time people at the tell me that there was an earthquake.

But water is a big issue. A lot of states are having the issue in the Southwest.
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« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2022, 09:53:00 AM »
As far as earthquakes go, not very many people die of earthquakes in the United States. The number is pretty low. More people get killed by tornadoes and other weather. But tornadoes by themselves kill more people than earthquakes. And I don't think we really have tornadoes here.
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« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2022, 10:27:46 AM »
I’ve noticed other western states having water issues have California pulling water out of them. 

The big problem that California created is more long term and a long time in the making.   

You pull water out of an area that normally has it and you also affect everything downwind since you no longer have evaporation to add humidity downwind.

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« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2022, 10:37:36 AM »
every year we get less and less rainfall around here.

on the bright side, arco near selling gas for 4.97.


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« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2022, 10:48:59 AM »
I’ve noticed other western states having water issues have California pulling water out of them. 

The big problem that California created is more long term and a long time in the making.   

You pull water out of an area that normally has it and you also affect everything downwind since you no longer have evaporation to add humidity downwind.

6 Western States share the Colorado River water resources via an agreement between those six states. So it's not like California is pulling water from another state. Six western states take water from the Colorado River.
All of the rest of the water that California gets we rely on groundwater and snowpack or rainfall.
The water issue is an issue in the entire Southwest. California is not pulling another state's water resources.
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« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2022, 11:09:39 AM »
$4.49 per gallon here in Michigan. (Marathon station)

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« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2022, 12:15:07 PM »
The evaporation of water from places other from where it is supposed to be is having an effect on where said water rains back down.   
I lived in the Leona valley and the San Joaquin valley and seeing the infrastructure projects. 

Now we have farmers who aren’t to collect the rainwater that falls on their own land.