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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2022, 06:42:48 PM »
Covid is like other questionable subjects these days...you can't question any of it or you will be canceled...still...

We are expected to accept any number on any subject from the ministry of truth without question...they know best

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That is the absolute truth! And it's funny how some people still just blindly accept whatever they're told from the government. And they even defend the government's actions.
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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2022, 06:46:46 PM »
So much better just to cancel science in favor of one's political belief/religion because .... paper masks and vaccines are 'deadlier' than Covid. Someone on Fox or OAN said so.  :aok

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2022, 07:19:04 PM »
So much better just to cancel science in favor of one's political belief/religion because .... paper masks and vaccines are 'deadlier' than Covid. Someone on Fox or OAN said so.  :aok

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Far-right conspiratorial channel One America News is taking the loss of its last major pay-TV provider pretty hard.
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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2022, 08:07:36 PM »
Auto accident ? Had covid ? Covid death. Heart attack, ANYTHING. Had covid ? Covid death.

Follow the MONEY...
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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2022, 08:32:59 PM »
Auto accident ? Had covid ? Covid death. Heart attack, ANYTHING. Had covid ? Covid death.

Follow the MONEY...

Show one instance where an auto accident was counted as Covid. Just one.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2022, 08:39:02 PM »
Auto accident ? Had covid ? Covid death. Heart attack, ANYTHING. Had covid ? Covid death.

Follow the MONEY...

my nephew was in a car accident, totalled his car.  guess what caused him to pass out and crash. he was complaining for days that he was tired. Young guy mid 20s. he tested positive.  and no injuries guess what he was treated for.

you think doctors would risk their license, going to jail for a hospital?

funny thing hospitals got paid based on Medicare rates if you don't have insurance.  and even with insurance the rates are negotiated by insurance companies.

so much crap people believe.  Facebook is not a reliable source of news.


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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2022, 08:40:02 PM »
You're assuming they were in intensive care. The point is there was incentive to list death with covid as death by covid. Of course there were a lot of actual covid deaths but the final number will be inflated. It's the nature of perverse incentives.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2022, 08:42:52 PM »
You're assuming they were in intensive care. The point is there was incentive to list death with covid as death by covid. Of course there were a lot of actual covid deaths but the final number will be inflated. It's the nature of perverse incentives.

Seems like a perverse incentive would be more like a 'news' channel arguing that a deadly virus is fake because it wants to hold onto a certain base that heard someone they adore claim such.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2022, 08:43:47 PM »
The lab leak theory is generally accepted now.

The experts have admitted lying and promoting personal agendas.

The effect of the lockdowns look to have been a disaster everywhere.

The notion that the vax will prevent disease or contagion is obviously false.

Not to mention that the "science" could not even be questioned. Science is all about asking questions - but we were lied to and anyone who raised questions was shut down.

They absolutely lied to us. Told us the vaccines were 99 percent effective and then ruined people's lives by trying to force people to take the experimental vaccine that didn't even work. They're still doing it. Trying to vaccinate infants.

They shut down the country, screwed people out of their livelihoods and crashed the economy over a coronavirus that had over a 97 percent survival rate.

They arrested people for just walking in a park or at a beach.

And some of these clowns here support all of it without question and call it all science.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2022, 08:47:46 PM »
Not to mention that the "science" could not even be questioned. Science is all about asking questions ...

Science is indeed all about asking questions. But its not about making up your own answers to those questions because you feel something.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2022, 09:21:59 PM »
 :rofl

Whose “science”?

World Health Organization (W.H.O.) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus took the “unprecedented” measure this weekend of ignoring the agency’s special advisory committee to declare the spread of monkeypox a “public health emergency of international concern” – despite his lack of medical background and his own admission that the risk of it spreading was “moderate” at worst.

The special advisory committee, which Tedros is not mandated to obey but expected to listen to, concluded last month that the spread of monkeypox globally did not yet rise to the title of global emergency. Its 15 members similarly concluded by majority this week that the situation remained the same – nine panel members opposed using the label PHEIC while six supported it, according to Reuters.

Reuters bizarrely described Tedros overriding the panel to declare a global emergency a “tie-breaker,” despite nine versus six not being a tie. Tedros himself described the situation as such, claiming he “had to act as a tie-breaker” on Saturday — revealing the news wire as a mere stenographer to his spin.

Science magazine observed, citing health experts, that Tedros’ declaration was the first of its kind in the history of the World Health Organization, a United Nations agency.

“This is big, unprecedented decision-making by the director general,” Clare Wenham, a global health expert at the London School of Economics, told Science. The PHEIC system has existed for 17 years

He acknowledged the evidence that the disease appeared to be spreading within a singular community and used it to pressure governments to “work closely with communities of men who have sex with men, to design and deliver effective information and services, and to adopt measures that protect the health, human rights and dignity of affected communities.”
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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2022, 09:29:55 PM »
Hospitals charge folks for treatment.

If they have insurance, the hospital gets paid.

If they are uninsured, the hospital often doesn't get paid.

Except if the patient had Covid.

In that case ( https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ ), for Medicare patients, hospitals got 1.2x usual.

For uninsured, the hospital got 1.2xMedicare instead of zero.

Typical reimbursement for Covid was about $13k, and if a ventilator was used, about $35k.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2022, 09:35:18 PM »
The covid vaccine has been proven to alter DNA in the lad using cancer cells. Within six hours.

Another lie.

This is under study at the moment. It's possible that these MRNA vaccines are able to permanently alter the human gnome.
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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2022, 09:50:44 PM »
Hospitals charge folks for treatment.

If they have insurance, the hospital gets paid.

If they are uninsured, the hospital often doesn't get paid.

Except if the patient had Covid.

In that case ( https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ ), for Medicare patients, hospitals got 1.2x usual.

For uninsured, the hospital got 1.2xMedicare instead of zero.

Typical reimbursement for Covid was about $13k, and if a ventilator was used, about $35k.

Brooke read your own link it debunks what you are trying to omply.

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Re: back when covid started, people here made predictions.
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2022, 09:51:52 PM »
The covid vaccine has been proven to alter DNA in the lad using cancer cells. Within six hours.

Another lie.

This is under study at the moment. It's possible that these MRNA vaccines are able to permanently alter the human gnome.

So  :( .

Lots of gum flapping but no link given.