World War III '45

[Nath-BDP]

Imagine that something terrible happened during the final weeks of Nazi Germany and the Western Allies became at war with the Soviet Union, what would have happened? Who would have 'won?'

I think that the Allies would have had the advantage early on with their superior air forces... on the ground the Soviets would have been superior IMO, they had nothing really technically superior but they did have power in numbers, which is what beat the Germans.  I think that a nuke would have been used on the Soviets, perhaps a tactical one... they really had nothing that could intercept high flying B29s.

So I belive that the air would be the deciding factor, the Allies clearly were superior in that aspect, and as proved, when you control the air you control what happens on the ground... the Allies would have beaten the Soviets eventually.

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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
   

"It felt as if an angel was pushing..."
-Reponse of Gen. Adolf Galland after flying the fourth prototype Me 262 in May 1943.

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[TheWobble]

I concur, but it would have been a savage war.

[RAM]

I don't, in 1945 the Soviet Union was reaching the limit of its manpower. They were sending regiments of women into combat because they had no men left.

Plus, in 1945 USA had the A-bomb,and the means to drop it over Moscow, and the Soviet Union not. Was a war to be won by the Allieds. I'm sure of that.

[bloom25]

Until 1949 the Allies would have won.  After that, both sides had the bomb.  The Allies still probably would have won though.  By then the Patton tank had been developed, which was FAR superior to the Sherman.



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS

[M.C.202]

I got into a long knock down, drag-out on this on rec.av.mil a year or so back. The answer is
not just the BOMB, but other projects. Things like the B-36, B-47, cutting off of rail transport from east of the Urals, loss of
information from former allies...not to speak of the loss of all lend lease.
A real "Red Hunt" would put a plug in the drain of atomic information.
U.S.S.R. gets into France in the first 3 to 4 months, then after fall of Japan things change.
Big losses for all, U.S.S.R. looses in 48' or 49'.

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M.C.202
Dino in Reno

[Dowding]

The Allies were going to launch an atomic attack on the USSR in the years following the war, but they were unsure of the state of the Soviet nuclear programme. In reality, they over-estimated the progress Stalin had made, and could have launched an attack without a nuclear reprisal.

Read Edvard Radzinsky's biography of Stalin and you will see how he convinceingly argues that Stalin was planning to attack Western Europe with nuclear weapons just before he died. Quite an alarming revelation.