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Offline Mayhem

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2022, 08:24:23 PM »
iffn you know it,s gonna be a dead horse, why post?  People been whining for years about eny, and no changes. And not likely to be.

Probably because the guy wants to save the game he loves. A lot of people have left due to the games shortcomings like ENY. I have to say the last 2 times I canned my subscription has been due to lack of interest and ENY.

The last time I came back I found enjoyment with FSO and Scenarios but when I went to the the MA afterwards I would get a few good flights in until the numbers dropped and ENY forced me to leave. On top of this The Damned's DCS squad nights are on Fridays and Saturdays. Eventually I went a few months maintaining a subscription without playing.

If I can't fly what I want when I want for whichever side I want then I'm not playing and If I'm not playing; I'm not paying.

Had ENY been pulled out of the game (at least with low numbers) the game probably would have kept my interest for a lot longer and would probably still be playing even with DCS and IL2 but ENY was kind of a deal breaker. I wound up rage quitting for the night way to many times because I could not fly any of my favorite rides.

Covid could only help this game so much for so long and it's positive effects on the player base have severely diminished. Hopefully someday (Soon), someone fixes this game's short comings and brings back it's player base to the levels we had in the early days of AH1 and AH2 :pray , If not I still have DCS and Il2  :salute
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2022, 10:26:58 PM »
Probably because the guy wants to save the game he loves. A lot of people have left due to the games shortcomings like ENY. I have to say the last 2 times I canned my subscription has been due to lack of interest and ENY.


You can't save the game you love by driving people away from it.

There are those like you who want to fly whatever they want, whenever they want, for their favorite team, no matter what the odds.  ENY prevents that.  Sorry, but that can't be helped.  In a game with so many different planes to enjoy, and with so many different ways to even the odds, I can't sympathize with you.  So go fly your DCS or IL2 or be a night elf in War of Worldcraft.  The people who really do enjoy the game, AND support it, really don't need the negative waves.

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2022, 11:35:52 PM »
LOLz  :ahand
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2022, 11:47:49 PM »
Lets see the guy is telling u why he logs off and and u say go fly DCS. Its people like u that hurt the sim not him. Lots liog off because of it. I dont think iit does anything beneficial. If they have numbers just up farther out.

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2022, 02:12:21 AM »
Sounds to me like some people want to have their cake and eat it too.

Why does the type of aircraft matter when you’re rolling sparsely defended base’s?
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2022, 06:56:19 AM »
Odd it seems more are interested in "winning" a map asap instead of enjoying the fight in it...

Never had the "loyalty" to stick to one side as I go to the side where I can find the most fights

I think that loyalty is a major issue as is the winning...

Try switching sides if you can't fly the plane you want to in the country you are in..

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2022, 08:28:53 AM »
As I said, the only thing I care about is finding a fight. When I can't find a fight I'll just log off.

Lately I've been getting on Sunday morning early when I wake up just to hunt for milk runners and their buffs. That's kind of boring though because you have to climbed it 90,000 ft sometimes .

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2022, 08:43:39 AM »
Lets see the guy is telling u why he logs off and and u say go fly DCS. Its people like u that hurt the sim not him. Lots liog off because of it. I dont think iit does anything beneficial. If they have numbers just up farther out.

You are wrong. If he thinks the players are coding the game fine. Everyone knows who owns the game. Contact him with your problems. Posting them here is pointless.
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2022, 08:52:54 AM »
ENY causes people to log off. So do some of the big maps, or when they get stale, like the one that's been up for the entire last week.

The game needs to adjust to the small population with more appropriate maps, tweaks to ENY and... universal radar. 

Too much chasing darbars and hide & seek these days. Turn it all on so we know where to find other players to engage with.

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2022, 11:17:02 AM »
Sure can pick out the "fighters" in this thread. ENY rarely affects me. My stable of planes are mainly midwar. There is always the Brewster  :aok

Universal radar and the smaller maps would go a long way for enjoyment. Between the two, universal radar would help the most.

What is frustrating is eight guys fighting in the dirt with no one in the air for the incoming fighters. 5 to 1 isn't a whole lot of fun..
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2022, 01:38:42 PM »
Radar increase and icon range decrease would be my picks

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2022, 03:04:23 PM »
Radar increase and icon range decrease would be my picks

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Wouldn't a friday night in the main be a hoot with icon ranges the same as Monday Madness ??

D1 for enemy and D3 for friendlys ? It would be a blast.
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2022, 04:08:10 PM »
Radar increase and icon range decrease would be my picks

Eagler

By "radar increase" I assume you mean every plane in the air over 200 feet has an icon on the map no matter if a friendly is close or not? There goes the "fog of war". Sure "fighter guys" think that would be awesome, but the vast majority of players we have even today are in the game for the "war" aspect of the game. Hitech setup a game for pure fighter (War online: Pacific ) and it never took off. MNM gets what 10-15 players on a good night, that is a small percentage of players of the game. No not EVERYONE wants to do fighters and if the changes made to this game turn that way it would close down the place in a couple of weeks.

I think the radar as it is causes problems too. Im sure MOST players hate getting shot down by some degree or another. when a player is climbing out on an attach run and a fight icon pops up he has to make a choice. If he dislikes getting shot down only a little bit he might try making his run anyway. What follows is either he dumps his ords and a fight ensues, he kamikaze's in on his target dieing there, or gets picked trying to dive in on his target. Or if he hate dying alot, he just turns away from the icon and runs.....all the way home if necessary.

Todays players dont spend the time playing this game and learning it like us old foggies did. There are too many options for them and they use them. That lack of time in game means these players have very little confidence in their abilities to win a 1 vs 1 let alone diving into gangs. Take away their "hiding" spot by wiping out radar and they will most likely leave to those other options. I wish Lusche would have another kids so he could stay home and make a comparision of the average player 10 years ago vs the average player of today.

Messing with the icon ranges is one of the things that killed AvsA arena. For away they were getting decent numbers (the whole game had decent numbers back them) but a group of players thought it would be cool to make it more realistic by changing the icon ranges which lead to complains to players just not showing up any more.



The only thing that is going to bring the game back to the glory days is better numbers. Twice the numbers means that there is twice as many fighter guys, twice as many win the war guys, twice as many gvers and so on. That means half as much trouble finding the type of fight/play you want out of the game.

That means the graphics, subscription rates, ENY setting, user interface all has to be updated to match closer to what is out there now. To those of us who play these things are fine for the most part, but we all know the ways around things and the fights are more important than how pretty the plane is that your HOin.  :devil To a new player it is something pretty important, after all there are so many other choices out there.

Any changes to the game now as far as "tweaks" have to be thought out very carefully as the balance we have now could drop out and we really arent that far from the bottom as it is.

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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2022, 05:02:53 PM »
Fugi I hate it when you are logical.

BUT...smaller maps ??  :aok
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Re: ENY problems... even if its beating a dead horse
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2022, 06:24:57 PM »
War Online Pacific had a limited plane set and a simplified flight model. It was not for the fighter pilots of AH.
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