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Offline Shane

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Re: HQ
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2023, 07:10:54 PM »
I don't care about the war per se as much as I do about gameplay being lopsided to the point where it ceases to be fun and causes people to leave.  You remarked on it when you said a lot of players logged when HQ went down.  HQ down is temporary and not every. single. day. like the morning numbers. 

And as I've repeatedly said, morning play sets the tone for the evening.  CptTrips over here thinks coading can resolve player ethics - and it can to an extent. 

It would be so much easier, again like you said, to "...look at the over all picture and not force a bad situation (low numbers) in to a worst one."  But good luck with getting players to change on their own accord, right?

I don't enjoy hordes, either in or against. I care more about seeing proper tactics used (ha ha these days) as opposed to just relying on numbers and attrition to take bases.


Im not yelling at Merv for doing what he did, Im suggesting he look at the over all picture and not force a bad situation (low numbers) in to a worst one.

I have no issue with the Knits and rooks being ticked off and ganging the Bish. It gets a bit frustrating sometimes as it seems to happen to the Bish more often than not, but at least there is a fight. More targets make more action.

I do find it funny that so many players seem to take the "war" so personally. "Bish screwed us this morning so we have to hammer them tonight!", or "Knits won the war last time, we have to crush them this map!". Its all a bit immature to me, but if it brings the action, so be it.
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Re: HQ
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2023, 07:56:24 PM »
CptTrips over here thinks coading can resolve player ethics - and it can to an extent. 

That's not what I said exactly.  At least not exactly what I meant. 

What I meant was that coad, map design, and HTC player rules are the only levers you have to pull that have any chance at affecting any change.  Whether those achieve the change you want is a different story.  But it's the only levers that have a chance of working.

It would be so much easier, again like you said, to "...look at the over all picture and not force a bad situation (low numbers) in to a worst one."  But good luck with getting players to change on their own accord, right?

Exactly.  See my thesis restatement above.  Standing in a huff and wagging a finger at the arena telling everyone to fly and fight different is like trying to teach a pig to sing.  It only annoys the pig and you end up looking darn silly.

Demanding that pilots in fast BnZ planes stop and turn fight your spit is just silly.

Demanding people only fly early war planes you can catch is just silly.

Demanding Merv stop bombing strat is just silly. He likes bombers.  He pays $15\mo to fly bombers. Bombers bomb stuff.  Surprise!

I've seen people on this forums throw a nuclear level ape fit because someone in a bomber dropped a fighter hangar they thought should be left alone.  I guess interception never occurred to them. 

I've seen people on this forums throw a nuclear level ape fit because someone in a jabo dropped a bomb on some armor that was having a fight and "ruined their fun!"  I guess air cover never occurred to them.

What is a bomber allowed to bomb now that some entitled snowflake won't think ruins their fun?   Isn't that why they added the AWACS radar?  How many bomber pilots did that lose?

Does it just become a bland Furball Lake?  Not capture, no bombing, no strat or radar to drop?  Isn't that what he tried with Pacific War?  That was fun for at least 6 minutes.

If this game can't be played at some semblance of the full spectrum combined-arms combat sim that it used to be, then what is it you are trying to save?

A $15\mo lonely grandpa chat room?

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Re: HQ
« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2023, 09:01:03 PM »
I don't care about the war per se as much as I do about gameplay being lopsided to the point where it ceases to be fun and causes people to leave.  You remarked on it when you said a lot of players logged when HQ went down.  HQ down is temporary and not every. single. day. like the morning numbers. 

And as I've repeatedly said, morning play sets the tone for the evening.  CptTrips over here thinks coading can resolve player ethics - and it can to an extent. 

It would be so much easier, again like you said, to "...look at the over all picture and not force a bad situation (low numbers) in to a worst one."  But good luck with getting players to change on their own accord, right?

I don't enjoy hordes, either in or against. I care more about seeing proper tactics used (ha ha these days) as opposed to just relying on numbers and attrition to take bases.

I agree, human nature sucks when it comes to any kind of competition to most people. I prefer to to have my own fights and avoid jumping in on a gang, but most cant. I have felt sorry for the Euro time guys for years. The numbers just suck and all it takes is a few Aholes to get together and dictate game play. As we all know their fun is far more important than everyone elses  :rolleyes:

In this case it was one player. Mister "duel accounts" took it upon himself to cripple a team, not for game play, but because he doesnt like the Bish  :headscratch:

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Re: HQ
« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2023, 09:07:27 PM »
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Demanding Merv stop bombing strat is just silly. He likes bombers.  He pays $15\mo to fly bombers. Bombers bomb stuff.  Surprise!


$30 a month I'm on the premium plan right Fugi? :rofl

I wasn't going to say anything about last night. These days somethings are better left unsaid but as soon as Fugi said his peace it was on like Donkey Kong. Watching this thread was almost as fun as yesterday's strategic campaign to defeat a superior force with nukes.
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Re: HQ
« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2023, 09:09:51 PM »

In this case it was one player. Mister "duel accounts" took it upon himself to cripple a team, not for game play, but because he doesnt like the Bish  :headscratch:
No once again your a liar and trying to dictate the narrative.

I did it to help my team by limiting the Bishops ability to properly coordinate and take back their bases. The motivating factors that drive me are a different issue entirely.
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Re: HQ
« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2023, 09:49:45 PM »
In this case it was one player. Mister "duel accounts" took it upon himself to cripple a team, not for game play, but because he doesnt like the Bish  :headscratch:

If he can't bomb strat targets aren't you taking away HIS fun?

Did HT not put strat targets there to be .......targets?

Weren't you the one saying that players who were having fun in GV should somehow be FORCED to have to fly fighters because there  weren't enough fighters in the air? 

Really?  You want to force players who prefer to be in a GV to fly a fighter when they don't want to?  Is that ruining THEIR fun?

Merv was doing EXACTLY what his job was as a bomber pilot. 

You didn't do your job in intercepting him.  Learn to intercept, or learn to live without your strat.

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« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2023, 10:02:09 PM »
If he can't bomb strat targets aren't you taking away HIS fun?

Did HT not put strat targets there to be .......targets?

Weren't you the one saying that players who were having fun in GV should somehow be FORCED to have to fly fighters because there  weren't enough fighters in the air? 

Really?  You want to force players who prefer to be in a GV to fly a fighter when they don't want to?  Is that ruining THEIR fun?

Merv was doing EXACTLY what his job was as a bomber pilot. 

You didn't do your job in intercepting him.  Learn to intercept, or learn to live without your strat.


LOL! it must be a sorry life you lead if all you do is try to pick apart peoples post so you can "debate". LOL!!!

I'l start replying to your post once you start playing the game again.
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Re: HQ
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2023, 10:05:12 PM »

LOL! it must be a sorry life you lead if all you do is try to pick apart peoples post so you can "debate". LOL!!!

Wait.  Are you saying you didn't say they should be forced out of GV into fighters?  If I misremembered that I will apologize. 

If not, you ought to own your statement.

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« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2023, 10:06:25 PM »
$30 a month I'm on the premium plan right Fugi? :rofl

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« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2023, 10:12:31 PM »
:D

That was what I was paying when I started.

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« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2023, 10:49:02 PM »
That was what I was paying when I started.

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Re: HQ
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2023, 03:23:37 AM »
When I logged in Bish were pushing semi-deep into Knightland and had 5 fighters over the base I started from. After clearing the airspace I began a push over the next 2hrs that lead to Knights coming within 30 miles of the city.

So I began a strat campaign that started with dropping the city to 35%. In order to prevent a quick resupply run I smashed the troops factory first then disabled troops at the base closest to city and HQ. Downtime was 83 minutes. As soon as the Bishops began making the long flight to resupply HQ I re-upped for the HQ again and dropped it for an additional 30 minutes. Managed a few goon kills as well  :salute

So for 2 hrs during primetime on a Saturday evening Bish HQ was down <S>

I logged after this and took a nap. Woke up 6 hrs later and reset the map about 45 minutes ago. Made sure Knights had a good head start against the bishops to start Black Sea map. I'm exhausted and headed back to bed.  :cheers:
You YOu YOU BASTAD! :rofl :kiss:        I didnt mean to kick a Hornet Nest with my post.   This was one of the most fun evenings, in some time. HQ or not. I honestly heard ZERO wailing and gnashing of teeth. The guys I flew with, went about business as usual.   I received more SITREP communications and Check 6s than I can recall. Besides...Finetime is at our strats....Knit base defense is lacking  :rofl  I believe the biggest gripe was about the 20+ ENY for the whole time?  No 163's, Doras, 152s or anything better than a p-47 D25.  IMHO, the folk not being team players, by logging out if they aint gonna play, was way worse than killing some Strat.  Its only like 4 Mouse clicks and back in...not that hard :uhoh
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Re: HQ
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2023, 08:22:20 AM »
You YOu YOU BASTAD! :rofl :kiss:        I didnt mean to kick a Hornet Nest with my post.   This was one of the most fun evenings, in some time. HQ or not. I honestly heard ZERO wailing and gnashing of teeth. The guys I flew with, went about business as usual.   I received more SITREP communications and Check 6s than I can recall. Besides...Finetime is at our strats....Knit base defense is lacking  :rofl  I believe the biggest gripe was about the 20+ ENY for the whole time?  No 163's, Doras, 152s or anything better than a p-47 D25.  IMHO, the folk not being team players, by logging out if they aint gonna play, was way worse than killing some Strat.  Its only like 4 Mouse clicks and back in...not that hard :uhoh

Fugi, this single post right here exposes you for both the terrible player you are and for the POS you have been on the forums the past 12 years.

As I have sId before your perspective is based off of 1 country, 1 squad, 1 night a week for maybe 2 hrs on a good night. You don't even communicate with the squad vox members you are on with. Your one of the most arrogant people I know and have been extremely detrimental in show casing the full potential of Aces High for many many years now.

I don't care about your connections or who you know. Your the kind of guy that spends 15 minutes running for an advantage from other fighters just to see my bombers, fly right for me dead 6 in a p38, then cuss me out on 200 when I easily shoot you down.


BW1STPAR is a legend for bringing this thread up in my book and I couldn't be more grateful. You did this to me during the HQ wars. Your the only one who did not leave AH after Dale made the changes for whiners like you. Far as I'm concerned you do nothing for this game outside your 2-3 hours every other week. I'll be sure and add keeping bish HQ radar down on Saturday Nights at the top of my list when possible just for you  :neener:
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Re: HQ
« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2023, 08:30:06 AM »
Maybe HT needs to improve the Flak base accuracy, or us Map makers increase the number of flak bases at the strats. You could surround a strat with Flak bases. That having been said, I can't recall the last time I saw, or had, a bomber destroyed by flak, except CV's and BB's.
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Re: HQ
« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2023, 08:46:33 AM »
Maybe HT needs to improve the Flak base accuracy, or us Map makers increase the number of flak bases at the strats. You could surround a strat with Flak bases. That having been said, I can't recall the last time I saw, or had, a bomber destroyed by flak, except CV's and BB's.
No its hard enough as it is to do what I did Saturday. The last thing we need is increased flak accuracy because yall don't want to defend the strats and blame it on low numbers...

You already ruined most maps from a strat factory perspective by making c47s accessible from the flak bases. That has rendered strats useless to attack as with 5 players they can be resupped in 15 minutes.

A reminder if you haven't read my earlier comments it took taking defended bases on a Saturday afternoon all the way to the strats door steps(2 hrs) then an additional 2 hours with everything going right despite the strats being defended to prep the city, barracks factory, and porking the barracks at the resupply base, than an additional 30 minutes of flight time for both HQ runs. All done with a 12k max ceiling. I fought my way in. Gave up 20 kills to do it to various players in the process.

The flak bases have a kill rate of around 33% for one bird and 15% for 2. Due to the time investment of a run that is plenty of deterrence to keep a player on their toes when fixing to drop on a strat.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2023, 09:13:32 AM by mERv »
"Its no problem to be the best, but to be so much better than the best is going to bring accusations."Haggarty
"Ever wonder why its always b-17s and B-24s? It allows him an extreme advantage over other players hence his bomber kill count, that and his lazer beam guns"Diaster
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