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Offline Lazerr

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Re: Here we go again
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2023, 01:34:46 PM »
Players being able to communicate with one another is what makes a community. It's already severely restricted since cross-country PM was disabled, so ch200 is literally the only method of being able to talk to players on the other teams.

That lack of personal contact is why so many players develop animosity for players on the other side. If they could hear/talk to each other, they'd realize that the others are just like them, and not so bad after all.

Some of us actually enjoy the banter on 200. Granted, there are plenty that should go nowhere near it for their own good. For the rest of us, being called "weaksauce" isn't going to spoil our fun. In fact, it may just enhance it.

Shane clearly derives a great deal of his entertainment from that. As long as he stays within the rules, let him have that. Those that are disturbed by it have the .squelch option at their fingertips.


Agreed.

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Re: Here we go again
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2023, 02:24:06 PM »
Players being able to communicate with one another is what makes a community. It's already severely restricted since cross-country PM was disabled, so ch200 is literally the only method of being able to talk to players on the other teams.

That lack of personal contact is why so many players develop animosity for players on the other side. If they could hear/talk to each other, they'd realize that the others are just like them, and not so bad after all.

Some of us actually enjoy the banter on 200. Granted, there are plenty that should go nowhere near it for their own good. For the rest of us, being called "weaksauce" isn't going to spoil our fun. In fact, it may just enhance it.

Shane clearly derives a great deal of his entertainment from that. As long as he stays within the rules, let him have that. Those that are disturbed by it have the .squelch option at their fingertips.


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Re: Here we go again
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2023, 04:05:13 PM »
Players being able to communicate with one another is what makes a community. It's already severely restricted since cross-country PM was disabled, so ch200 is literally the only method of being able to talk to players on the other teams.

That lack of personal contact is why so many players develop animosity for players on the other side. If they could hear/talk to each other, they'd realize that the others are just like them, and not so bad after all.

Some of us actually enjoy the banter on 200. Granted, there are plenty that should go nowhere near it for their own good. For the rest of us, being called "weaksauce" isn't going to spoil our fun. In fact, it may just enhance it.

Shane clearly derives a great deal of his entertainment from that. As long as he stays within the rules, let him have that. Those that are disturbed by it have the .squelch option at their fingertips.

Yep

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Re: Here we go again
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2023, 02:10:36 AM »
I think there's such a thing you could call "Michael Jackson-syndrome". If you don't get criticism for anything then that's not normal for a human whose evolution is small community-based. You just wander farther and farther off into your own delusions which you mistake for reality. Look at the bizarre anti-reality which is social media. Sometimes it's unpleasant or confrontational or insulting to get a reality-check or be told what you actually do or are, but necessary.

There's a lot of talk about the sandbox nature of the game: it's your $15 and you can do what you want. That's also true yes and no because Aces High is inherently an interaction between people, a community and that has a momentum and rules of its own.

Underneath all that there is the typical human-conflict theme which seems ever-present. I'm in the same opposite position to the 'castrati' as Shane is. There's just opposed ideologies of why you play. Those who play purely for results will always find the easiest / most efficient / productive path to flow down. Where it becomes an irreconcilable conflict is where comparison of score and results is pressed on you to be meaningful to those who play for fun, challenge or self-development. Conversely the 'numbers-never-lie' group simplistically point to they score. Then there's a range of positions in between those two extremes. Those camps will never resolve their differences.

I'd suggest to HTC (if there was any practical point to do so  :)) relaxing the PM restraint which might get some of the heated and not generally relevant remarks off the public channel. Make more channels cross country even, like radio stations. I'm sure a political one would be quite popular. Radio 1410 ACM would probably go out of business though  :rofl
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Re: Here we go again
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2023, 10:32:46 AM »
There exists ways of semi-private cross country comms (might be same for vox, i dunno.)  All you need to do is tune a radio to say, channel 221 and presto, anyone tuning that channel will see, regardless of country.  It just requires people knowing and being tuned. Which is what ch200 is when you think about it.  :aok 

It's my understanding the PMs were removed because of people PMing in offensive ways (I never used PMs for my ego-stomps, public is where it's at), not so much the spiez aspect (which the above method leaves in place.) PMs do work across arenas.


I think there's such a thing you could call "Michael Jackson-syndrome". If you don't get criticism for anything then that's not normal for a human whose evolution is small community-based. You just wander farther and farther off into your own delusions which you mistake for reality. Look at the bizarre anti-reality which is social media. Sometimes it's unpleasant or confrontational or insulting to get a reality-check or be told what you actually do or are, but necessary.

There's a lot of talk about the sandbox nature of the game: it's your $15 and you can do what you want. That's also true yes and no because Aces High is inherently an interaction between people, a community and that has a momentum and rules of its own.

Underneath all that there is the typical human-conflict theme which seems ever-present. I'm in the same opposite position to the 'castrati' as Shane is. There's just opposed ideologies of why you play. Those who play purely for results will always find the easiest / most efficient / productive path to flow down. Where it becomes an irreconcilable conflict is where comparison of score and results is pressed on you to be meaningful to those who play for fun, challenge or self-development. Conversely the 'numbers-never-lie' group simplistically point to they score. Then there's a range of positions in between those two extremes. Those camps will never resolve their differences.

I'd suggest to HTC (if there was any practical point to do so  :)) relaxing the PM restraint which might get some of the heated and not generally relevant remarks off the public channel. Make more channels cross country even, like radio stations. I'm sure a political one would be quite popular. Radio 1410 ACM would probably go out of business though  :rofl
« Last Edit: August 05, 2023, 10:34:22 AM by Shane »
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