2023 hurricane season

[Dadtallica]

Even if you don’t quite grasp an anthropomorphic changing climate, please stay safe if you and your family are in the way of one of these things!

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An average hurricane season has 14 names storms, 7 hurricanes and 3 major hurricanes. Most years - going back to when records begin, are average or very close to average.

There is nothing new happening.

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http://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm

Here are all of the storms up until 2020. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in modern times? No, you do not.

It's super easy to take a minute to do even the most basic research on these things


Year       Named Storms   Hurricanes   Major
Hurricanes
1851    6   3   1
1852    5   5   1
1853         8   4   2
1854        5    3   1
1855    5   4   1
1856    6   4   2
1857    4   3   0
1858    6   6   0
1859    8   7   1
1860    7   6   1
1861     8   6   0
1862     6   3   0
1863     9   5   0
1864     5   3   0
1865     7   3   0
1866     7   6   1
1867     9   7   1
1868     4   3   0
1869    10   7   1
1870    11   10   2
1871    8   6   2
1872    5   4   0
1873    5   3   2
1874    7   4   0
1875    6   5   1
1876    5   4   2
1877    8   3   1
1878    12   10   2
1879    8   6   2
1880    11   9   2
1881    7   4   0
1882    6   4   2
1883    4   3   2
1884    4   4   1
1885    8   6   0
1886    12   10   4
1887    19   11   2
1888    9   6   2
1889    9   6   0
1890    4   2   1
1891    10   7   1
1892    9   5   0
1893    12   10   5
1894    7   5   4
1895    6    2   0
1896    7   6   2
1897    6   3   0
1898    11   5   1
1899    10   5   2
1900    7   3   2
1901    13   6   0
1902    5   3   0
1903    10   7   1
1904    6   4   0
1905    5   1   1
1906    11   6   3
1907    5   0   0
1908    10   6   1
1909    12   6   4
1910    5   3   1
1911    6   3   0
1912    7   4   1
1913    6   4   0
1914    1   0   0
1915    6   5   3
1916    15   10   5
1917    4   2   2
1918    6   4   1
1919    5   2   1
1920    5   4   0
1921    7   5   2
1922    5   3   1
1923    9   4   1
1924    11   5   2
1925    4   1   0
1926    11   8   6
1927    8   4   1
1928    6   4   1
1929    5   3   1
1930    3   2   2
1931    13   3   1
1932    15   6   4
1933    20   11   6
1934    13   7   1
1935     8   5   3
1936     17   7   1
1937     11   4   1
1938     9   4   2
1939     6   3   1
1940     9   6   0
1941     6   4   3
1942     11   4   1
1943     10   5   2
1944    14   8   3
1945    11   5   2
1946      6   3   1
1947    9   5   2
1948    9   6   4
1949    13   7   3
1950    13   11   8
1951    10   8   5
1952    7   6   3
1953    14   6   4
1954    11   8   2
1955    12   9   6
1956    8   4   2
1957    8   3   2
1958    10   7   5
1959    11   7   2
1960    7   4   2
1961    11   8   7
1962    5   3   1
1963    9   7   2
1964    12   6   6
1965    6   4   1
1966    11   7   3
1967    8   6   1
1968    8   4   0
1969    18   12   5
1970    10   5   2
1971    13   6   1
1972    7   3   0
1973    8   4   1
1974    11   4   2
1975    9   6   3
1976    10   6   2
1977    6   5   1
1978    12   5   2
1979    9   5   2
1980    11   9   2
1981    12   7   3
1982    6   2   1
1983    4   3   1
1984    13   5   1
1985    11   7   3
1986    6   4   0
1987    7   3   1
1988    12   5   3
1989    11   7   2
1990    14   8   1
1991    8   4   2
1992    7   4   1
1993    8   4   1
1994    7   3   0
1995    19   11   5
1996    13   9   6
1997    8   3   1
1998    14   10   3
1999    12   8   5
2000    15   8   3
2001    15   9   4
2002    12   4   2
2003    16   7   3
2004    15   9   6
2005    28   15   7
2006    10   5   2
2007    15   6   2
2008    16   8   5
2009    9   3   2
2010    19   12   5
2011    19   7   4
2012    19   10   2
2013    14   2   0
2014    8   6   2
2015    11   4   2
2016    15   7   4
2017    17   10   6


Average
1981-2010   12   6.5   2

[Meatwad]

Also doesnt account for the storms that were not known to of existed back in the 1850 - 1930 and were not accounted for due to no satellites picking up stuff out in the middle of the ocean

[Dadtallica]

Also doesnt account for the storms that were not known to of existed back in the 1850 - 1930 and were not accounted for due to no satellites picking up stuff out in the middle of the ocean

The number of storms or events are not the point. It’s about the severity.

[guncrasher]

you can see that list and see how it increased with the industrial revolution.  that could be one way of interpreting that data.  another way is in  the last 20 years we have had more storms than previously.



semp

[Eagler]

If the timing is right full moon tides will get a destructive boost along the west coast early Wednesday

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

You'd think by now we'd have technology that could disperse the storms and prevent severity. My guess is that they'd rather just keep pushing their fear agenda so they can take us back to the 1700s.

I don't think the severity has gotten worse or less worse. It's more housing and more buildings that have been built that get damaged which costs more money overall making it seem worse as costs are much higher.

What you see in that chart represents their ability to call out storms and name them moreso than the years before, however "hurricane" and "major hurricane" figures haven't really changed.

[RUSH1]

The number of storms or events are not the point. It’s about the severity.

And the goal posts keep moving.

[Dadtallica]

And the goal posts keep moving.

Because it’s not a game.

[RUSH1]

Because it’s not a game.

Yet you clowns make it one.

[RUSH1]

The number of storms or events are not the point. It’s about the severity.

What are you basing severity on?  Documented wind speeds over a large sample size, or just more targets/structures for a storm to hit compared to say 100 years ago.

[Chris79]

you can see that list and see how it increased with the industrial revolution.  that could be one way of interpreting that data.  another way is in  the last 20 years we have had more storms than previously.



semp

That means absolutely nothing. If you really want to obtain a yearly average of tropical cyclones 1960 is the best year to start. Before then, a fair number number of cyclones would have gone unreported due to the fact that they tend to form in areas of minimal shipping activity and there was no satellite imagery. Also the NHC tends to classify storms as tropical now that they would not have 20 years ago.

[guncrasher]

That means absolutely nothing. If you really want to obtain a yearly average of tropical cyclones 1960 is the best year to start. Before then, a fair number number of cyclones would have gone unreported due to the fact that they tend to form in areas of minimal shipping activity and there was no satellite imagery. Also the NHC tends to classify storms as tropical now that they would not have 20 years ago.

i was just commenting on the table that gina provided.  basically many ways data can be interpreted


semp

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The number of storms or events are not the point. It’s about the severity.

The severity is not worse either.

I know some people try to associate hurricane damage with severity but that's not true. When a hurricane hits areas that are now full of houses where they didn't used to be houses, there's more damage.

It's common sense and you can do your own research.

I think it's ridiculous that people allow themselves to be taken in by things that they could understand on their own with very little effort.