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Re: This morning
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2025, 09:17:06 AM »
I saw one house with a generator, a well, and sprinklers on the roof.     
He was prepped. 

Many houses needlessly burned for want of a simple garden hose.

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Re: This morning
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2025, 05:35:59 PM »
I saw one house with a generator, a well, and sprinklers on the roof.     
He was prepped. 

Many houses needlessly burned for want of a simple garden hose.

Glad to see that you've never been in the middle of a wild fire.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2025, 08:48:20 AM »

Actually, I have.   

I remember my dad wetting the house as fields burned across the street at NAS Lemoore and being worried because my little sister was missing.

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Re: This morning
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2025, 10:25:32 AM »
I saw one house with a generator, a well, and sprinklers on the roof.     
He was prepped. 

Many houses needlessly burned for want of a simple garden hose.

There’s some truth to that.
I’ve seen several stories of neighbors with garden hose putting out neighbor’s fires.
Big help if you’re home to use it. Many fires one guy put out the neighbors were not home.

Sprinklers on the roof is brilliant, as long as there’s pressure.

I think clay tile roofs would go a long way too. Weight is an issue.

Story I heard yesterday is 3 people arrested for arson. No idea what that means.

I have s feeling these homes would be rebuilt differently.

I also think a fair point has been made that the ocean is right there, which is where AC got water to dump.

But if pipping was not installed the last 100+ years, there’s no real way to use it otherwise. This should be a no brainer now.

I used to have a well drilled strictly for yard water. City water for the house, cuz it was already there and good water. That idea is not available everywhere. But quite handy, green yard.

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Re: This morning
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2025, 10:43:17 AM »
What's really interesting is that I've recently learned that fires have been burning down cities since the 1600s. Many city fires in North America in 1800s and 1900s. Chicago, 1871, 320k population, 17k buildings burned down, only 300 deaths. Great fire of new York, 1776, 700 buildings 2-3 deaths only. London fire of 1666 13,200 buildings destroyed, only 6 deaths. Paris, Texas 1916, 1440 buildings destroyed, only 3 deaths. Toronto, 1904, 100 buildings, 0 deaths. 1852, Montreal, 1/4th of city destroyed, 0 deaths. And the city fire list goes on and on and on. Detroit, 1805, nearly everything destroyed, only 600 population with those beautiful buldings? No deaths! Pheonix 1916, 80 buildings, 1 death, Miami 1901, 2400 buildings 7 deaths. Houston fire, 7M in damages (237M today) 0 deaths,

Really damn good for 0 radio technology or TVs at the time to get the evacuation word out.


However in Maui 2024, 2200 destroyed with 100 deaths with all the great technology we have for communication. The city fire list goes on and on. Something ain't adding up!


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Re: This morning
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2025, 10:44:26 AM »
My brother finally wised up and is leaving California. They'll be North Carolina bound when his daughter graduates from highschool this summer.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2025, 11:00:55 AM »
I view living in a coastal state or mountains one is suseptable to either fires, hurricanes or mud slides, flooding.

Even though all are repeats, they are not prevented nor handled differently. They all cost billions.

If a home has been wiped out by hurricanes 2-3 times why do they live there, is the question of outsiders.

I saw a Manson fall into Pudget Sound 3 times as the cliff gave away. Why was it rebuilt a 3rd time?

Only difference between fires and hurricanes, one is wet, one burns. They should meet.


Seems to me southern states took about 1 trillion in hurricane money. Why were they not prepared?
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Re: This morning
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2025, 11:50:15 AM »


Good luck trying to prevent a hurricane.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2025, 12:20:08 PM »
I have been through several hurricanes, fires and such. Never was a burden on my neighbors or anyone else. Most people today are not prepared for anything.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2025, 12:20:21 PM »


Good luck trying to prevent a hurricane.

Yep.

Good thing the laws of Physics don’t allow lightning or electric lines don’t cause fires and wind/oxygen doesn’t turn a small flame into a iron working kiln. We’d really be screwed.

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Re: This morning
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2025, 12:24:26 PM »
Most people today are not prepared for anything.

That's my point.

And yes other in hurricanes have needed others to get through it, and billions to trillion has been paid out for hurricanes along with people in other states contributing to clean up. Suddenly a mother nature disaster in a blue state and there’s hell to pay.

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Re: This morning
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2025, 12:25:11 PM »

I saw a Manson fall into Pudget Sound 3 times as the cliff gave away. Why was it rebuilt a 3rd time?


Where and when was a "Mansion" rebuilt in a landslide area after it fell into the "Puget Sound" 3 times?

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« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2025, 12:36:10 PM »
Texas has winds and twice the forests of California. Texas works at preventing wild fires though they do of course happen but don't kill dozens and destroy thousands of homes. Tornadoes and hurricanes do.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2025, 12:47:54 PM »
Where and when was a "Mansion" rebuilt in a landslide area after it fell into the "Puget Sound" 3 times?

Diane Cannon’s house, think it was across from Vishion Island. They even put 100 piillars in the ground the 2nd or 3rd time. It was in the 90s

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Re: This morning
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2025, 01:37:36 PM »


Good luck trying to prevent a hurricane.

We dodged the bullet on 2 major storms hitting the Gulf Coast last season. Some minor flooding and a couple screens flew off. Still recovering from Ian with over 100k in damage.

Seems as though historically thankfully most of those storms wont hit the same spot for long periods of time. Irma came through and actually being north of the eye caused all the canals to run dry by pulling all the water out which I would think be ideal living in coastal areas.
It is starting to look very dismal though. This year only had 2 homeowners insurance carriers left that we had to choose from and premiums are at an all time high. Some neighbors not too fortunate as insurance companies packed up and left the day before Ian.

You just never know anymore. I grew up in the Hudson Valley NY. They got pumbled in 23' with a thousand year storm that caused many homes to flood. Never in a million years would call that one.
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