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Offline molybdenum

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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2025, 06:54:58 PM »
I have a solution, those whom use the auto switch function are not allowed to take control of a task group. It may upset the fleet admirals such as Caine, but I believe it would work.

I totally agree, and have made this suggestion before.
That having been said, I was there for part of the badinage between caine and kongkyuk. Kong did it solely to annoy caine, (and it worked), very childish of him.
And THAT having been said, I disagree with the people who say hiding stolen task groups is lame. Many if not most play for team and an eventual map win, and moving one TG out of action on a map in which there are over ten doesn't affect the conflict dynamic at all. It even makes the game more interesting for players like me because of the "where did the BB go, it would be awesome if I found and sunk it and we get it back and wouldn't the hider be pissed" thing.  :lol

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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2025, 10:02:06 PM »
I have a solution, those whom use the auto switch function are not allowed to take control of a task group. It may upset the fleet admirals such as Caine, but I believe it would work.



Your solution doesn't work since I was not on auto switch and was Bish.
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2025, 10:05:56 PM »
  Caine is an auto switch player that always moves and hides the teams cv's he's playing for then when the switch occurs he knows all the locations and the teams sink them.
 
  He also helps to take bases but in the middle of taking bases, if he gets switched to the team being attacked, he then stops the attack!? This game play is unethical. So he should be the last one to complain about other players.

  If you select to auto switch then you should not have access to cv control.
This post is a complete lie. If true post your film
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2025, 11:58:25 PM »
Your solution doesn't work since I was not on auto switch and was Bish.

90% of the time you are on autoswitch and I'm sure you were before you went six hour perma-bish for whatever reason you had at the time. It's why this whole issue got started--Kong's not the first person to accuse you of using intel you gleaned from autoswitch re:ship positions to hunt and sink (or at least be prepared for) an enemy TG attack. I've accused you of that before myself.

It's a delicate point. I don't autoswitch; but if I did, I'd try my best to come into the temporary new side tablua rasa. "I know where ominous enemy boat is; but would I have known or figured it out if I were coming in afresh?" If someone held a knife to my throat and forced me to give an honest opinion on the matter, I'd probably say "Yeah, I do think caine uses what he remembers vs what he would have figured out." I easily could be wrong. But that's what I believe. And I'm not the only one.

Simplest solution is to deny boat commanding privileges to autoswitchers. The boat commanding thing has certainly been abused before by players who wanted to control a team resource for personal benefit, like shelling down a factory to get a safe and easy achievement when players who actually allied to the team in question wanted to use that boat in an attack elsewhere. And there is the suspicion--even if undeserved, it is divisive--that you use intel you would not have otherwise have had when you do switch sides.

Denying boat command privileges to players on autoswitch would go a long way towards fixing this.
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2025, 06:23:12 AM »
90% of the time you are on autoswitch and I'm sure you were before you went six hour perma-bish for whatever reason you had at the time. It's why this whole issue got started--Kong's not the first person to accuse you of using intel you gleaned from autoswitch re:ship positions to hunt and sink (or at least be prepared for) an enemy TG attack. I've accused you of that before myself.

It's a delicate point. I don't autoswitch; but if I did, I'd try my best to come into the temporary new side tablua rasa. "I know where ominous enemy boat is; but would I have known or figured it out if I were coming in afresh?" If someone held a knife to my throat and forced me to give an honest opinion on the matter, I'd probably say "Yeah, I do think caine uses what he remembers vs what he would have figured out." I easily could be wrong. But that's what I believe. And I'm not the only one.

Simplest solution is to deny boat commanding privileges to autoswitchers. The boat commanding thing has certainly been abused before by players who wanted to control a team resource for personal benefit, like shelling down a factory to get a safe and easy achievement when players who actually allied to the team in question wanted to use that boat in an attack elsewhere. And there is the suspicion--even if undeserved, it is divisive--that you use intel you would not have otherwise have had when you do switch sides.

Denying boat command privileges to players on autoswitch would go a long way towards fixing this.
I had been Bish before going to bed when we took port sank cv13, BB64 and I sent BB64 north. In my morning signed on saw port gone cv13 lost and BB 64 near a strat, not being used. On kongkyuk commenting on taking control I went Bish.
So if I send a boat to safety, I am violating some code of honor of yours and where is it posted never mind the fact, I had been Bish for over 6 hours.
If you find my actions so questionable man, up put your name on boat and set its course this can be done even after I auto switch
To those who whine it's to be used as a weapon I wager my field gunner score is far larger than yours
Last but not least please post film of my auto switch and sinking boats. Never mind I don't know from sortie-to-sortie which country I will be on and most ships course are hours long
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2025, 08:10:51 AM »
You guys will never experience the fun to be had zeroing enemy strats with a bunch of heavy fighters because the ships are sent to the same spots over and over.   

I feel you have to remain with any CV you command.   

Also……it seems none here understand how the ships react to course changes. 

If they knew, they wouldn’t flood it with course changes commands. 

So……I’m not sure I will be sharing the locations of enemy CV i have found because every announcement guarantees a bunch of people inputting commands from 9 sectors away and we lose a CV that was was only a couple more shots from destroying the enemy task group.   


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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2025, 09:59:34 AM »
You guys will never experience the fun to be had zeroing enemy strats with a bunch of heavy fighters because the ships are sent to the same spots over and over.   

I feel you have to remain with any CV you command.   

Also……it seems none here understand how the ships react to course changes. 

If they knew, they wouldn’t flood it with course changes commands. 

So……I’m not sure I will be sharing the locations of enemy CV i have found because every announcement guarantees a bunch of people inputting commands from 9 sectors away and we lose a CV that was was only a couple more shots from destroying the enemy task group.

Maybe require anyone taking command of a TG to be on the boat, and limit the command time to some figure, maybe an hour. But the idea to restrict Auto Switchers from taking command is still step in the right direction.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2025, 10:02:41 AM by JimmyD3 »
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2025, 01:23:16 PM »
Maybe require anyone taking command of a TG to be on the boat, and limit the command time to some figure, maybe an hour. But the idea to restrict Auto Switchers from taking command is still step in the right direction.

 OK take away auto switchers control of Cv's and make it ok to post on 200 their locations. Let's go back to high eny to rid us of auto switchers. Let the vocal minority rule ala GHI Rule change on the IL2
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2025, 03:03:35 PM »
OK take away auto switchers control of Cv's and make it ok to post on 200 their locations. Let's go back to high eny to rid us of auto switchers. Let the vocal minority rule ala GHI Rule change on the IL2

Cane, like it or not, being able to command a TG while your on Auto Switch is just illogical. Surely you can see that?  As to the exposing your countries TG locations on 200, I think that is fundamentally wrong as well.
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Re: Posting Position of Boat on 200
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2025, 06:37:28 PM »
OK take away auto switchers control of Cv's and make it ok to post on 200 their locations. Let's go back to high eny to rid us of auto switchers.
You are deliberately overcomplicating this. No one ever said it's okay to post TG positions on 200.
Ever.
We'll exclude kongkyuk in this discussion because he's an idiot savant with a reasonable concern, that many other players, rightly or wrongly, share.

What is your actual, reasonable, LOGICAL argument concerning whether or not side switchers should have the right to control TGs they have no long-term team interest in?
« Last Edit: March 02, 2025, 06:40:03 PM by molybdenum »