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Looking to upgrade sorta.
« on: March 26, 2025, 08:40:56 AM »
OK, heres my story, I have ...

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 24576MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti

3 HD, 2x 500G, 1 150G

I havent done a clean install for years (if it aint broke dont fix it), but with WIN10 coming to an end I figured I might as well do it before it runs out so I can keep WIN10 a bit longer (should I bother or just switch to WIN11 now?). I figured while I was in there Id add an SSD drive. Turns out my MB is far too old for that(13+ years), so I need a new MB.

So at this point Im looking at a new motherboard Recommendations? An SSD Recommendations?

Should I keep the old CPU or will it 1, not fit in a new MB and 2, become a bottleneck?

My video card is good and plays well with my Quest2

I have a Creative SB X-Fi sound card. Do the new MB have better onboard sound than an old SB card?

I am sooooo out of the loop!

Any help ya'll can post would be great. The research begins today!

Thanks

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2025, 08:54:57 AM »
My last upgrade was about 2 years ago so I can't offer advice on upgrade specs...but be aware that some MB's are not WiFi equipped.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2025, 09:26:45 AM »
OK, heres my story, I have ...

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 24576MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti

3 HD, 2x 500G, 1 150G

I havent done a clean install for years (if it aint broke dont fix it), but with WIN10 coming to an end I figured I might as well do it before it runs out so I can keep WIN10 a bit longer (should I bother or just switch to WIN11 now?). I figured while I was in there Id add an SSD drive. Turns out my MB is far too old for that(13+ years), so I need a new MB.

So at this point Im looking at a new motherboard Recommendations? An SSD Recommendations?

Should I keep the old CPU or will it 1, not fit in a new MB and 2, become a bottleneck?

My video card is good and plays well with my Quest2

I have a Creative SB X-Fi sound card. Do the new MB have better onboard sound than an old SB card?

I am sooooo out of the loop!

Any help ya'll can post would be great. The research begins today!

Thanks

I’m happy with Win11. Tweaking seems easier.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2025, 09:28:35 AM »
Getting a Win11 compliant rig would in my books be recommendable. If you don't need brand new anything past 2018 would do.

The numbers on your current system look good, getting the same values of newer ones should be plenty enough. For SSD disks comparing their speeds is a waste of time. In most situation you can't tell the difference of lightning speed to sick fast. Reliability is more important. An m.2 NVMe disk takes less space than a SATA connected disk (which you should be able to connect to your current system as well) and doesn't use cables all of which improves airflow.

Onboard sound v.s. an internal sound card may not make much difference as both suffer more or less from the EMI inside the case. And of course there's variables starting from three jacks to six, with or without an optical outlet and possibly a metal housing to reduce the interference.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2025, 11:16:50 AM »
Well after spending a couple hours looking at MB that support both NVME .20 and my 1155LGA socket cpu I have come to the conclusion that I need to buy a MB, CPU, and SSD. Its starting to add up fast. I guess I cant complain, first major update in 10 years.

Getting a Win11 compliant rig would in my books be recommendable. If you don't need brand new anything past 2018 would do.

The numbers on your current system look good, getting the same values of newer ones should be plenty enough. For SSD disks comparing their speeds is a waste of time. In most situation you can't tell the difference of lightning speed to sick fast. Reliability is more important. An m.2 NVMe disk takes less space than a SATA connected disk (which you should be able to connect to your current system as well) and doesn't use cables all of which improves airflow.

Onboard sound v.s. an internal sound card may not make much difference as both suffer more or less from the EMI inside the case. And of course there's variables starting from three jacks to six, with or without an optical outlet and possibly a metal housing to reduce the interference.

My MB doesnt support either, and from what Im finding most MB with the 1155LGA socket dont either.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2025, 12:39:54 PM »
Huh? I've been in the belief that a SATA SSD would work on any Mobo that has SATA ports. But I may be wrong in that.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2025, 01:00:04 PM »
OK, heres my story, I have ...

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 24576MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti

3 HD, 2x 500G, 1 150G

I havent done a clean install for years (if it aint broke dont fix it), but with WIN10 coming to an end I figured I might as well do it before it runs out so I can keep WIN10 a bit longer (should I bother or just switch to WIN11 now?). I figured while I was in there Id add an SSD drive. Turns out my MB is far too old for that(13+ years), so I need a new MB.

So at this point Im looking at a new motherboard Recommendations? An SSD Recommendations?

Should I keep the old CPU or will it 1, not fit in a new MB and 2, become a bottleneck?

My video card is good and plays well with my Quest2

I have a Creative SB X-Fi sound card. Do the new MB have better onboard sound than an old SB card?

I am sooooo out of the loop!

Any help ya'll can post would be great. The research begins today!

Thanks

My Gaming system/HEWS is an AMD R9 5900x Cpu RTX 3080 system is my systems bottleneck in DCS I'm CPU locked/limited. One reason why I'm upgrading to a 9950x3d. AH maxed in VR, DCS HiRes on Flat Screen and Ok in VR.

My Workstation (older system, Getting replaced by existing as I upgrade to x870e) has a Xeon E3 1231 V3 CPU basically a Core I-7 4770 - Apu + ECC  32gb and a GTX1080Ti - AH runs well even in VR, DCS is OK on Flat Screen and slugish (Slideshow) in VR.

Micr$not is killing winblows 10 in October, You are going to need a 2018 CPU (Intel 8th Gen or Newer) to install winblows 11.

I would recommend Keeping the GPU and Consider replacing the 3rd gen CPU which is going to require new Memory and a Motherboard. I would consider turning your old CPU, Mother Board into a file server/Nas or some other network project.
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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2025, 01:27:09 PM »
I would consider turning your old CPU, Mother Board into a file server/Nas or some other network project.

Another option is Linux Mint. I've had many windoze users start using it from day 1. Linux has come a long way in user friendliness, and you can run a good deal of windoze programs and games on Linux. Steam OS is based on Linux too if you wanted to go that route.


About the upgrades. I would look very closely at signal core performance as I upgraded a computer from a 12100 to a 12700 and there was hardly any difference in games that run that are single threaded for the most part. (that's most of the games I play) So I returned it. This may not be the same for your configuration, however I think that some people think 16 cores vs 4 cores means more than twice as fast but the game has to be able to use all those cores and my experience most aren't. Just something to consider.
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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2025, 02:13:16 PM »
What Hazmat Wrote, Mint is a really good Ubuntu Debian Fork and my favorite flavor of Penguin.

Another Idea would be Steam OS (Debian Based Linux).

Another thing to think about is game streaming on steam. Basically you are remotely playing your game on your gaming rig from another (Usually less powerful System)
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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2025, 11:08:36 AM »
I would suggest looking around for mb/cpu/ram combos on /r/hardwareswap. Can usually pick up some great gently used stuff on there and you don't really need to worry about part compatibility.

As an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/1jhokw2/usatxh_ryzen_7_5700x3d_msi_mag_b550_plus_32_gb/

Obviously the 3rd gen i7 is not comparable, but for giggles:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700X3D/1317vsm2280831
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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2025, 12:44:07 PM »
The more I look into this stuff and try to get back up to speed (been out of it for almost 10 years  :rolleyes: ) Im thinking I should buy a built box with onboard graphics. Then I can drop the 4060 Ti into it and be ok for a few years again. Im not sure I want to do a build myself. Last couple I did I had issues with and the older I get the grumpyer I get and Id really hate to throw the new rig through a window before I get it running  :D

I'll keep digging, thanks for the tips, and keep them coming as I try to narrow my search.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2025, 01:06:01 PM »
My last box specs are in my signature...I have been happy with its performance and lack of issues

Building it is the best part..this last one was my first water cooled cpu and having RGB colors on the video card, fans , cooler and ram..so you need a glass case  :aok

Good luck with it

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2025, 04:49:36 PM »
I would definitely do the MB and Processor. Even without the fastest processor, you will notice a vast performance jump. The throughput between the processor and other peripherals would be much greater on a new board. Your graphics card would even show and improvement. This route would also require new ram.
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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2025, 04:25:48 AM »
Know the requirements for the aRGB and the RGB fans and other lighting.

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Re: Looking to upgrade sorta.
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2025, 06:32:19 PM »
Is that setup supported by Win 11?  For example, does it support secure boot and have TPM or, if not, a TPM header?