The Ta-152

[Lusche]

What does this accomplish, saving fuel?

In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.

In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.

[Wiley]

In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.

In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.

It's not necessary to conserve in the Ta but IMO there's a bit to be said for not using WEP in the beginning.

Personally, if I'm spending a lazy afternoon/evening patrolling for bombers that are making strat runs at ludicrous alt, I sometimes climb to 15-20k without WEP before turning it on.

It's been years since I was doing it habitually, but I wasn't fond of having it recharge at whatever alt you get to if you WEP from the ground.  I liked having more WEP available at alt before it needed to recharge rather than burning WEP at lower alt where the non-WEP climb rate was still decent.  Climbing without WEP up to 10k didn't feel like it lost as much as having WEP not available in the 20-30k range.

IE-  It felt like I got more benefit out of not having as much downtime as I got up to alt and was trying to get up to speed.  YMMV of course.

If the situation is a bomber at 20kish, then it's time to WEP all the way from the ground obviously.

Once I'm up to speed at alt ish I would turn it off.

You've got to work at it to run a Ta out of WEP in a sortie though.

Wiley.

[Shuffler]

Hmmmm so that may be what I am doing wrong. I usually WEP all the way into the trees.

[RotBaron]

Apparently you do NOT

I asked him how our AH 152 engine is cooled, he said “I don’t care.”   

For someone that was “taught” 190’s and the 152, they sure left out important info. 

[RotBaron]

In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.

In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.

40 mins! Good to know.

[Shane]

In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.

In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.

But wait! There's more!

I dunno who to credit this info to  , but...     

[Eagler]

Obviously my sorties are never long enough to run out of wep in the 109 lol..

Eagler

[capera]

I asked him how our AH 152 engine is cooled, he said “I don’t care.”   

For someone that was “taught” 190’s and the 152, they sure left out important info.

Hey RotBaron, let’s be real for a second. Aces High is a sim—it’s a game. We’re not cracking open tech manuals or pulling engines in a hangar here. Getting caught up in the FW-152’s cooling system like it actually matters in this context? 

As for aircraft maintenance—I’m retired now after 30 years turning wrenches on P-3 Orions. I’ve been elbow-deep in airframes that don’t get a second chance when something fails. Those days are behind me.

I get your passion for aircraft—most of us in here share that. But let’s be honest: you’re a nurse by profession. You’ve got no hands-on experience with aircraft maintenance, and that’s fine. Just understand that trying to link my working knowledge of real-world airframes to the cooling system of a fictional 152 in a flight sim doesn’t really track. It has no bearing on the gameplay or the conversation.

But hey—if you ever want to talk P-3 systems or real-world airframe mechanics, I’m sure I can answer your questions. If I cannot, I know "how" to find them.

[hazmatt]

As for aircraft maintenance—I’m retired now after 30 years turning wrenches on P-3 Orions. I’ve been elbow-deep in airframes that don’t get a second chance when something fails. Those days are behind me.

I did a few years on P3s too before transferring to S3s and then AIMD.

We're so old that I think they're both in museums now lolz

[capera]

I did a few years on P3s too before transferring to S3s and then AIMD.

We're so old that I think they're both in museums now lolz

I think you are right. Most are in the graveyard or mounted on a pedestal. Great aircraft to work on.

[JimmyD3]

The "Lockheed Electra" was an awesome airplane, iirc that was the civilian version of the P-3. When I got to Alaska in 71, Reeves Aleutian Airlines was flying a bunch of the Electa's.

[hazmatt]

The "Lockheed Electra" was an awesome airplane, iirc that was the civilian version of the P-3. When I got to Alaska in 71, Reeves Aleutian Airlines was flying a bunch of the Electa's.

Wow. I was 1 year old until the end November 71. I don't feel so old now!

[JimmyD3]

Wow. I was 1 year old until the end November 71. I don't feel so old now!

  , KIDS!!

[icepac]

I could teach you guys how to get the most fuel efficiency and high altitude speed but it just seems more fun to hear the complaints from people who believed they were safe from interception even though at least half of the planeset is capable intercepting any bomber at any altitude.   

I’ve never seen any of the complainers of hackery in my many hours testing of planes in the training arena.   

[capera]

I could teach you guys how to get the most fuel efficiency and high altitude speed but it just seems more fun to hear the complaints from people who believed they were safe from interception even though at least half of the planeset is capable intercepting any bomber at any altitude.   

I’ve never seen any of the complainers of hackery in my many hours testing of planes in the training arena.   

Always chiming in....never a good thing to say. Every hear the saying. "If you have nothing good to say, ....."   

The issues was not the alt of the 152 and it's performace up there. The issue was he floated up from 10K to 34K....effortlessly. I had a P47 (bluenote) climbing to me and was visible. Then Rotbaron's 152 comes into visual range, below the P47......and guess what? He was able to float up off my r/h wing.......then proceed to pull ahead of my bombers, before bluenote could even reach my buffs. 

What I seen was not natural. Unfortunately I do not have the film. but Rotbaron does. He refuses to post it, as he says that is my responsibility. I've asked him several times to post it. He refuses.

Integrity is rare these days, in the MA.