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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #165 on: May 29, 2025, 12:44:39 PM »
I'd love to see HTC monetize their server technology through licensing.  It is top tier server code being held back by a front end he can not compete on.
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You know if HiTech ever gives up on AH he could sell the server and client software. You wont see 500+ per arena but the game would never die at least not until windows outgrows it like it did with Air Warrior III (Drano had to build a win98se machine to get his old AWIII boxed game to run).

What would also be cool is if Hitech Developed and sold Mods for DCS. I think he would not only be good at it but He would probably be better than any one else especially when it comes to warbirds. I'm also getting kinda tired of waiting for Magnitude 3 to get off their arses and finish the F4U1D.

However, I think that would also depend on the real reasons behind the ED vs Razbam conflict. While I'm all for supporting and maintaining warbirds Nick Grey owns the Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics. ED has been known to make 0% intrest loans to the fighter collection. It's rumored that those loans has put ED in a position where it has to sell new mods to pay the developers for the sales of the old mods.

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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #166 on: May 29, 2025, 12:47:23 PM »

That's be me.  I wish more people would try helos.  They are a blast.  A totally different way of flying that has a lot in common though with warbirds.  I mean, it is a "prop" driven aircraft in a way. ;)

I think I'd be OK with jets up until fly-by-wire and BVR kills.  That's when you lose me.  So I might could do early CW, Korea, early Vietnam\Arab Israeli Conflict kinda stuff. 

The WWII MP environment is not close to AH, but damn those planes are beautiful and a joy to just go out and fly.

I wish HTC would expand to become a DCS Vendor.  They have all this expertise that just needs a more economically viable platform to fund their team.  I think as long as you don't try and violate the IP, it is a good deal for both parties.  Someone like Heatblur would never make trying to make their own custom game, but they are quite profitable under the DCS umbrella.  Get his artists together and produce some modules.  He would bring decades of experience and the market is ripe for more WWII 3rd party modules.  Let another company handle the marketing.

I'd love to see HTC monetize their server technology through licensing.  It is top tier server code being held back by a front end he can not compete on.

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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #167 on: May 29, 2025, 01:00:58 PM »
What would also be cool is if Hitech Developed and sold Mods for DCS.

Great, or evil, minds think alike. ;)


And becoming a DCS module developer in no means he has to shut down AHIII.  In fact, that could be the path to saving it and restarting development.

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« Reply #168 on: May 29, 2025, 01:28:55 PM »
Great, or evil, minds think alike. ;)


And becoming a DCS module developer in no means he has to shut down AHIII.  In fact, that could be the path to saving it and restarting development.

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My vote is for a multi-crewed EB-52. Of course we'll need nukular weapons.
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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #169 on: May 29, 2025, 01:59:20 PM »
Yes we do.
It requires mods.

What mods, and what kind of server is it? I am usually on vanilla hard
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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #170 on: May 29, 2025, 02:44:21 PM »
However, I think that would also depend on the real reasons behind the ED vs Razbam conflict. While I'm all for supporting and maintaining warbirds Nick Grey owns the Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics. ED has been known to make 0% intrest loans to the fighter collection. It's rumored that those loans has put ED in a position where it has to sell new mods to pay the developers for the sales of the old mods.

Well it eventually started coming out that yes, Razbam had been trying to work the the Ecuadorians to get them an custom model and get it running on a customer grade free download version of DCS.  That violates DCS IP agreement and is an attempt to deny them the government level version they sell to militaries.  This was clearly an attempt to violate their non-compete agreement and interfere with their MAIN revenue stream which is probably not he consumer product.  The fact that Razbam tried so hard not to let that part out should tell you something.  It was not what was originally present as ED just randomly choosing not to pay them for no apparent reason. 

The loan thing I think is an issue with people not understand how business can work.  Some hitech companies and such might compensate their CEO with interest free loans with no paypack period and no interest.  It's a way of increasing their compensation without increasing their tax load. 

The company gets to book it as an asset, accounts receivable, and the CEO doesn't have to declare it as income as it is a "debt".  Creative book keeping.

It's grey area (excuse the pun) but not particularly illegal.  I understand it would seem odd to most street normies.  It's not the first time I've seen it in tech companies.

The fighter collection existed long before Grey's association with ED.  I think his Dad started it decades ago.

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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #171 on: May 29, 2025, 02:55:58 PM »
My vote is for a multi-crewed EB-52. Of course we'll need nukular weapons.

Well, with ED and other mods appearing to be shifting to PTO content, that market is wide open for a vendor to continue to fill out the ETO.  Or even to start, just producing WWII asset packs. 

Get you foot in the door, get up to speed on their platform and SDK.  A good on-ramp without having to bite off a full fidelity aircraft at first.

Then use that revenue to get the band back together and fund further AHIII development, which they are free to do as long as they work it out in their contract.

For instance Heatblur thrives under DCS but still makes MSFS modules.

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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #172 on: May 29, 2025, 03:14:48 PM »
What mods, and what kind of server is it? I am usually on vanilla hard

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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #173 on: May 29, 2025, 05:28:32 PM »
My vote is for a multi-crewed EB-52. Of course we'll need nukular weapons.

You have them in DCS we use to restart our training servers with a nuke (No Joke) the last mission a Mig would spawn at the north edge of the map with a huge escort and fly all the way south Kataisi and drop a single bomb that would insta kill everything in a 10 mile radius and then the server would restart. However there is no mushroom cloud or even a flash.

But OMG how cool would it be to walk around and change stations in a B-52 in VR? Heck some one should just make a full VR B-17/B-29/B-52 with working stations.
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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #174 on: May 29, 2025, 05:33:28 PM »
You have them in DCS we use to restart our training servers with a nuke (No Joke) the last mission a Mig would spawn at the north edge of the map with a huge escort and fly all the way south Kataisi and drop a single bomb that would insta kill everything in a 10 mile radius and then the server would restart. However there is no mushroom cloud or even a flash.

Lol.

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« Reply #175 on: May 29, 2025, 05:33:35 PM »
Even a B-52H would be fun. The EB-52 is the fictional Megafortress though. There is an F-106 mod with the Genie nuke missile. Big kill radius but no blast effects as you mentioned.
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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #176 on: Yesterday at 05:02:03 PM »
Bed Time Already..

30 min downloading the up date

45 minutes loading time to get past all the bugs

10 minutes on start up and TAXI

5 minutes chasing dots and the mission ends

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Re: Marketing AH3 in other games.
« Reply #177 on: Yesterday at 06:54:09 PM »
Bed Time Already..

30 min downloading the up date

45 minutes loading time to get past all the bugs

10 minutes on start up and TAXI

5 minutes chasing dots and the mission ends

 :aok

The no icons definitely gives me twitches from the old days of AH dot bug lmao. Wondering why there is no icon, and then realizing it was just a dot plane bug and not a plane at all  :rofl :old:

I feel your pain though, similar happened just the other night. Right when I get the air, the server resets :aok
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