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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2025, 07:50:32 AM »
Oh... I understand it. I know what it does. The possibilities. The security issues.


Pretty much.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2025, 06:13:11 PM »
Screw artificial,   I would just love to see some actual normal intelligence these days..it's missing badly imo..

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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 07:45:58 AM »
Screw artificial,   I would just love to see some actual normal intelligence these days..it's missing badly imo..

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Reverse the seventy years or so of the decay/degeneration/perversion of the education system. Close the federal Department of Education, and break/ban the teachers' unions. It'll take 30-50 years, probably, at least 20 years, to see real results.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 11:52:11 AM »
Most think AI will be biased with the biases of it's trainers. I think initially that is true but the "smarter" an AI becomes the less influence humans will have with it. Before long it will hate all of us. ;)
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 12:10:19 PM »
Reverse the seventy years or so of the decay/degeneration/perversion of the education system. Close the federal Department of Education, and break/ban the teachers' unions. It'll take 30-50 years, probably, at least 20 years, to see real results.

Maybe sit down with your ignorance.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 04:31:48 PM »
Maybe sit down with your ignorance.

Maybe go pound sand with your arrogance, and utter stupidity.

The United States spends more per capita and more per student than any nation in the free world.

For that expenditure, for the last 60 or so years, the United States has steadily declined in its ranking in the free world in education, and more rapidly so since Jimmy Carter formed the federal Department of Education as a repayment for the favor of the teachers' unions for their support in the 1976 election.

The United States K-12 education system turns out an utterly illiterate product, illiterate in economics, generally illiterate, and utterly stupid in mathematics. Many, if not most of the larger cities and municipalities are "graduating" a majority of high school seniors who read, write, and solve mathematics at a 6th grade or lower level.

The United States university system turns out "graduates" who, for the most part, cannot and will not even find a job that fits or requires their "degree", or any "degree", and they're generally incapable of paying off their student debt in less than 20-30 years.

Having been in the work force for the last 45+ years, I can say that, at an ever higher percentage every year, high school, and worse, university graduates, are not only not educated, but are so indoctrinated that more than half simply cannot be taught or trained. And outside of medical, legal, and engineering jobs that require a degree, larger companies are now refusing to hire college graduates.

Maybe just STFU in general. You're a decent stick in an imaginary flying game. And that's really your only claim to fame.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 04:32:58 PM »
Most think AI will be biased with the biases of it's trainers. I think initially that is true but the "smarter" an AI becomes the less influence humans will have with it. Before long it will hate all of us. ;)


LOL. It will maintain the biases of its programmers. That's not to say it won't hate them, too. After all, the monster most often comes for its creators.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 04:42:30 PM »
The United States K-12 education system turns out an utterly illiterate product, illiterate in economics, generally illiterate, and utterly stupid in mathematics. Many, if not most of the larger cities and municipalities are "graduating" a majority of high school seniors who read, write, and solve mathematics at a 6th grade or lower level.

The United States university system turns out "graduates" who, for the most part, cannot and will not even find a job that fits or requires their "degree", or any "degree", and they're generally incapable of paying off their student debt in less than 20-30 years.

I've been a high school teacher (in Tennessee!) for 11 years now, and I am amazed at how many basic English words my kids don't know or understand.  I have always known I have a small vocabulary thanks to my general hatred of reading (which I also credit to the education system), but it is getting harder and harder to adequately explain historical topics because I have to spend so much time defining words that are not specific to my content.  And we're talking about 5 letter words lol.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 04:55:11 PM »
I've been a high school teacher (in Tennessee!) for 11 years now, and I am amazed at how many basic English words my kids don't know or understand.  I have always known I have a small vocabulary thanks to my general hatred of reading (which I also credit to the education system), but it is getting harder and harder to adequately explain historical topics because I have to spend so much time defining words that are not specific to my content.  And we're talking about 5 letter words lol.

Exactly. It ain't just Tennessee. It's the nation. It's both tragic and catastrophic.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 05:11:13 PM »
How many kids does/did Shane have in the public school system?

It was a joke 30 years ago - pre cell phones/ school shootings-  when my two sons were subjected to it..oldest got to experience busing to a 6th grade center..what a screwed up idea - can only imagine how it is today with the agendas that are pushed and zero respect entitled children who want to identify as a cat and purr their answers...

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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 05:17:28 PM »
How many kids does/did Shane have in the public school system?

It was a joke 30 years ago - pre cell phones/ school shootings-  when my two sons were subjected to it..oldest got to experience busing to a 6th grade center..what a screwed up idea - can only imagine how it is today with the agendas that are pushed and zero respect entitled children who want to identify as a cat and purr their answers...

Eagler

People are always surprised how advanced academically my kids are for their ages and how good their social skills are. (it's easy when they don't have bad examples to pick up things from) They always ask me what school they go to. I love the blank expression I always get when I tell them that they are all home schooled.

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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 05:54:09 PM »
People are always surprised how advanced academically my kids are for their ages and how good their social skills are. (it's easy when they don't have bad examples to pick up things from) They always ask me what school they go to. I love the blank expression I always get when I tell them that they are all home schooled.

If my second marriage is blessed with children, they will be home schooled.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #42 on: Yesterday at 05:54:35 PM »
Such has been true for probably longer. I mean how is it that a 24 year old architect could design some of the most beautiful buildings the world has ever seen, have them built to perfection in less than 2 years, do multiple of them in a few different states, with amazing stone carvings and immense inside as well, in the middle of no where, and they last for hundreds of years built in the 17-1800s with no power tools, no engines, no paved roads, no phone, no internet for communication, on a horse that you have to water and feed. It certainly makes you wonder what happened to that knowledge, atleast.

Degrees would be far more beneficial for the student to be working in their field of study while they are in college as a class. Simply studying theory just doesn't cut it. Further, college students getting out of college who get a job entering huge purchase orders into a system for 35k isnt exactly what they had in mind. IMO, young college students waste atleast 2 good years when they could have been working at a business making money and gaining real experience. I think its all just a huge money making scheme to get 18 year olds into massive debts before they even start their lives in the business world, on top of not even teaching Accounting. Economics is worthless individually, its Accounting they should be teaching. I wasn't taught Accounting in High school. But in anycase we as a society need to change a lot in schooling if we want to be a prosperous society rather a "gimme" society that they've worked to turn us into.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #43 on: Yesterday at 06:43:38 PM »
College is definitely a scam.

They indoctrinate the weak minded to embrace marxism, globalism, climate hysteria, etc.

It employs a massive number of "professors" who could not otherwise find a job.

Those two items explain why literally 1/3 to 1/2 of the classes required at most universities have zero practical application, and zero value, to the degree being pursued.

The debt is just another way for the government to enslave people and keep them on the plantation. And of course, the availability of government guaranteed loans has not only driven the cost of a degree up 1000%, but it literally makes it possible for the brain dead leftist professors to have their jobs guaranteed by "administrators" who add worthless "classes" to the requirements for every degree.

And it is self perpetuating. Those who "graduate" infest the work place in "HR" departments, so that they can require people to have useless degrees like theirs.

The work force is now well saturated with brain dead "graduates", up to their eyeballs in debt, who have no skill or experience of value, and cannot be trained, because they've been taught that they're "educated' and therefore "intelligent" to the point of believing themselves omniscient. I watch them cost corporations millions of dollars on a daily basis.

"Education" has become "intelligence" without experience, practical knowledge, common sense, or wisdom. Making it useless at best, and often evil and dangerous.
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Re: Beginning of the end..
« Reply #44 on: Yesterday at 06:50:37 PM »
Now they give kids Chrome Books with auto correct, auto spell, calculators. The whole nine yards. I have a nephew who graduated from high school 10 years ago, and can't read or spell. It's a completely different education system then what I grew up in. I don't even think they try to teach the kids how to think these days.
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