Finally figured out what changed with gunning in bombers

[mERv]

Its the convergence. Few years back gunning in bombers was like shooting lazer beams. Something changed and I brought it up. Never really tried to figure it out until tonight. The convergence is shorter. I used to be able to accurately pop planes 1k out. Now im lucky to hit within 600. No complaints just stating observation. 

[Lusche]

Nothing has changed with bomber guns convergence. Has been at D500 like forever. See this post in Help & Training forum from 2007

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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And it's still at D500 ever since.

[fuzeman]

A constructive post from me, who woulda thought?   

[The Fugitive]

Its the convergence. Few years back gunning in bombers was like shooting lazer beams. Something changed and I brought it up. Never really tried to figure it out until tonight. The convergence is shorter. I used to be able to accurately pop planes 1k out. Now im lucky to hit within 600. No complaints just stating observation. 

No, I think your out of practice. hen I was in on you last night, I got closer than norm when fighting you. Your SA was horrible compared to how you use to fly, and by getting that much closer I took you down before you could get a bead on me.

I think if you play a bit more you'll find that the guns are the same and you'll be knocking everyone out of the sky again with ease.

[JimmyD3]

A constructive post from me, who woulda thought?   

Don't sell  yourself short Fuzeman, we luv ya!!!

[Lusche]

A constructive post from me, who woulda thought?   

You might have forgotten, but you were awesome back in the day. 

[mERv]

Nothing has changed with bomber guns convergence. Has been at D500 like forever. See this post in Help & Training forum from 2007

And it's still at D500 ever since.

something changed a couple of years ago.

The distance itself may not have changed but the behavior of tracer eounds certainly has. There is much more arc than in years past. Back in the day bombers line of fire would converge on a point like lazer beams. For awhile now the lead  bombers firing arcs drop dramatically after the point of convergence versus the drones. In the past there wasnt much drop due to gravity. Even the slightest change in code would influence this and ive noticed.

No one has flown more sorties in bombers than I have in the past 3 years. Its not something im bragging about im just saying im as qualified as anyone in the game to notice a change. I came to realize last night the convergence is not the same as it used to be. Maybe its the arc of the rounds as they travel, maybe its the spread of the rounds, maybe its changes to both. Something changed and there isnt anyone who fly in bombers enough to cooberate this to any substantial degree. Do it unnounced in a game whos community complains about their time investment getting ruined by cheater bombers and wallah! Problem solved.

Im all for necessary changes to the game. If Dale made the descision to "level" the playing field a view years back when i was on a tear then that is whats best for the business. The same goes for the drone behavior i spoke of in another thread. All it means is I dont get to fly into a sea of red anymore and come out alive with 10 kills like in the past 

[AKIron]

Hmmmm, guns in bombers should not suffer convergence effects. Maybe a bit but we're talking inches of separation, not feet like the spread in fighters. You shouldn't think of multiple bombers having a convergence effect the same as a single fighter.

I suspect the multi gun positions like the tail gunner, ball turret, etc, were not set for convergence. They were likely aimed out to infinity in parallel. If one gun hits then the other is only a foot or two away.

[AKIron]

If you want to think of a three ship bomber formation as having a convergence then think of it as having a dynamic convergence. Convergence continually adjusted for range.

[fuzeman]

Kenai77, Lusche  you guys crack me up!!   

[Molsman]

Kenai77, Lusche  you guys crack me up!!   

Ya Know fuze,,,

As Morgan Freeman would Say Kenai77 and Lusche are Right ya Know

[Spikes]

something changed a couple of years ago.

The distance itself may not have changed but the behavior of tracer eounds certainly has. There is much more arc than in years past. Back in the day bombers line of fire would converge on a point like lazer beams. For awhile now the lead  bombers firing arcs drop dramatically after the point of convergence versus the drones. In the past there wasnt much drop due to gravity. Even the slightest change in code would influence this and ive noticed.

No one has flown more sorties in bombers than I have in the past 3 years. Its not something im bragging about im just saying im as qualified as anyone in the game to notice a change. I came to realize last night the convergence is not the same as it used to be. Maybe its the arc of the rounds as they travel, maybe its the spread of the rounds, maybe its changes to both. Something changed and there isnt anyone who fly in bombers enough to cooberate this to any substantial degree. Do it unnounced in a game whos community complains about their time investment getting ruined by cheater bombers and wallah! Problem solved.

Im all for necessary changes to the game. If Dale made the descision to "level" the playing field a view years back when i was on a tear then that is whats best for the business. The same goes for the drone behavior i spoke of in another thread. All it means is I dont get to fly into a sea of red anymore and come out alive with 10 kills like in the past 

I highly doubt any change was made to the base coding of the game without it being documented in patch notes or posted on the forum.

I don't doubt your expertise in bombers but find it hard to believe someone looking for a little confirmation bias in their posts over the person who wrote the code. And I'm sure HTC would not change code 'unannounced' due to people whining about something.

[fudgums]

It's sad to see what happens to legends when they get older