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[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Its kinda funny that someone thinks a person who spends 10 years of their life and 100s of thousands in student loans basically living in a hospital to become a doctor learning some of the most complicated biology on the planet, should just give their services for free..

How dare you bring common sense, and an opposition to slavery and confiscated wages into a conversation.

[Shuffler]

Its kinda funny that someone thinks a person who spends 10 years of their life and 100s of thousands in student loans basically living in a hospital to become a doctor learning some of the most complicated biology on the planet, should just give their services for free..

The problem is if they are in a hospital, they are required to donate a certain percentage of their services for free. Hospitals are required to cover a certain percentage of people for free. It is not those of use who work and pay the bills. Visit an Emergency Room. Most in there have colds and such and are there using it as a free doctors office. Just clogging the system.
This is why you see so many clinics and MRI type testing facilities around hospitals. Since they are not IN the hospital, they are not required to donate their time. It is at these places you can get cheaper tests paying cash than you can if you use your insurance.... much cheaper.

[DmonSlyr]

The problem is if they are in a hospital, they are required to donate a certain percentage of their services for free. Hospitals are required to cover a certain percentage of people for free. It is not those of use who work and pay the bills. Visit an Emergency Room. Most in there have colds and such and are there using it as a free doctors office. Just clogging the system.
This is why you see so many clinics and MRI type testing facilities around hospitals. Since they are not IN the hospital, they are not required to donate their time. It is at these places you can get cheaper tests paying cash than you can if you use your insurance.... much cheaper.

Ahh very good point indeed. I always thought having care facilities where you can pay $50 a month if you want future services would be far far more beneficial than this stupid insurance crap we have to deal with. Even paying the hospital directly to pay off a major procedure would be technically cheaper probably, and not paid forever. Insurance probably has usefulness, but it seems to mostly be a middle man racket designed to keep prices exorbitantly high while some still pay $400+ a month with no services at all, and then when you do need it, they dont even cover what you need, or call getting a shot surgery so you dont get the deductible. All around stupid, but they've gamed it this way because if you can control health, you can control a population 

[AKIron]

Insurance is a very profitable racket. Especially when you consider they may be bailed out by the government in extreme situations.

[AKIron]

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[Spikes]

The problem is if they are in a hospital, they are required to donate a certain percentage of their services for free. Hospitals are required to cover a certain percentage of people for free.

What is your source for this?

[Shuffler]

What is your source for this?

Direct from doctors back when my mother was last in the hospital with cancer.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Yep, it's true, most hospitals have a charter that requires them to offer indigent care. And doctors often have to participate in order to have privileges to practice in those hospitals. There are rare, high end hospitals that are something of an exception, but even those cannot refuse life saving emergency care to the indigent.

[Spikes]

I think offering emergency services regardless of the patient being able to afford it is a lot different than "required to donate a certain percentage of their services for free".

[AKIron]

Providing emergency services without respect to payment ability does not absolve anyone of debt. Aside from that those who can pay will pay for not only their own care but for those who can't/won't. Why work when the benefit is the same for those who don't? That is the reason it was criminal to not work in the Soviet Union.