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Offline CptTrips

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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2025, 11:00:27 AM »
They were able to build far more beautiful buildings and write much more eloquently than people now, soo, perhaps they were doing something right before 1880  :rofl

Well, except for the cholera, typhoid, measles, polio and stuff like that. ;)

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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2025, 11:03:32 AM »
If an EMP were as effective as some speculate there's little doubt in my mind it's high on the list of attack strategies by our enemies. It's not a sure thing though but will nevertheless incur our great wrath.
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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2025, 11:24:11 AM »
[Martial law would be implemented in small localized area without instant communications.  Military dictatorships would rise to quell civil unrest.  The big cities would be a free for all run by street gangs.
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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2025, 12:45:49 PM »
Out here where I live,  (10 minutes to the nearest town of 728, and 35 min to the nearest "big" town of 24k) I doubt much would happen if the power went out, at least not until it had been out for a while.

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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2025, 02:19:53 PM »
Read One Second After. Insulin must be refrigerated. A lot of people would die inside a month if the power suddenly went out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After

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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2025, 02:40:02 PM »
Loss of electricity in the nation for a prolonged time would result in a lot of dead people.

EMP over the nation (takes 1-2 lower-powered nukes to do that) would kill maybe 90% of Americans.

Carrington event would be less because a lot of cars would still work.  But it would still be very bad.  It would take out every electric device hooked to a power line (unless it had a good surge protector).  No pumps or electric equipment to supply water, take away waste, process food, make drugs, run hvac, make fuel, supply natural gas, refrigerate food, move things on piplelines, make anything in a factory.  You might be able to travel for a distance with vehicles until fuel runs out.  Most farms would die without electricity, pumps, and fuel.

EMP:  Carrington event plus, no working cars, trucks, boats, planes, trains.  You are instantly reduced to a travel radius of what you can do on foot or bike (or horse, for the tiny fraction of people who have horses).

I think most people without access to surface water would die within a month.  People without food would die in half a year.  Anyone requiring medicine to survive would die after a while.  Lots of people would get murdered.

It would be horrible.

For several $billion (which is nothing in modern budgets), our government could make it so that such events wouldn't kill 90% of people.  But few know about this biggest of all threats.  Few people care.

Me, once I learned about how this stuff is entirely possible, I at least made buckets of rice and beans (sealed in mylar, with oxygen absorber inside, will last for 30+ years, and together are a complete protein), getting some water filters that allow you to use swamp water, etc., enough for my family for a while.  One bucket is a man-month of calories.  It is cheap, doesn't take much time, and you can do it once in your life and be protected against starvation.

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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2025, 02:42:25 PM »



. . . It would revert back to prior to the 1880s.  Horses, oil lamps, washboards and sailing ships until steam powered transportation resumed. 

Can you give up this age of convenience?

Then you have never pied in a chamber pot.  Never smelled the aroma of a kerosene soaked corn cob burning to get the wood stove going.  Never road to the cotton gin in a mule drawn wagon filled with fresh, hand picked cotton.  Never roasted on one side next to the pot belly stove while your other side froze.  Never watched the kerosene lamp glow that soft light.   Never got excited when the traveling Pedaler drove up to the house.  Never watched as the clothes were stirred around in the big, black cast iron boiling pot over a wood fire out in the yard..

Not so bad back then but that was in the early 1950s not 1880s.

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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2025, 10:47:29 PM »
Then you have never pied in a chamber pot.  Never smelled the aroma of a kerosene soaked corn cob burning to get the wood stove going.  Never road to the cotton gin in a mule drawn wagon filled with fresh, hand picked cotton.  Never roasted on one side next to the pot belly stove while your other side froze.  Never watched the kerosene lamp glow that soft light.   Never got excited when the traveling Pedaler drove up to the house.  Never watched as the clothes were stirred around in the big, black cast iron boiling pot over a wood fire out in the yard..

Not so bad back then but that was in the early 1950s not 1880s.

My Granddad not once ever came off as nostalgic about fresh hand picked cotton.  :rofl  In fact, as maybe the nicest, most even tempered man I think I ever met... that's one of the few subjects he would frown about.
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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2025, 04:02:52 PM »

It's about keeping the people who want what you have from overrunning your position.

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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2025, 11:31:25 AM »
It's about keeping the people who want what you have from overrunning your position.

Indeed. We have access to surface, mid, and deep water. We have access to food. We have access to ammunition. We have a couple of doctors and a few nurses in the group.
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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2025, 11:32:56 AM »
Probably a good idea to know your neighbors. SHTF and people migrate to groups.
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Re: An Interesting Conversation of a World Without Electricity
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2025, 01:05:18 PM »
My Granddad not once ever came off as nostalgic about fresh hand picked cotton.  :rofl  In fact, as maybe the nicest, most even tempered man I think I ever met... that's one of the few subjects he would frown about.

Picking cotton is a a whole lot different than ridding in a wagon full of cotton.