Sig 365

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[Widewing]

Hadn't seen the magazine conversion for the 870, but then, I haven't been looking. I have a Winchester pump. It's a hunting shotgun, but it stays loaded with 00 Buck, and slugs, in a close closet, for home defense.

Had several combat style shotguns, years ago, sold them when I changed my career. That was a drawback for the 18" combat shotgun at the time, capacity. A magazine conversion would help, a few were tried, with mixed results. When they had feed issues, they tied up the action, that's big problem. You could always single feed in an emergency if the tube ran dry. But if the action ties up...... That's why a lot of agencies not only didn't use semi auto shot guns, but also issued 2-1/2" ammunition for 3" rated guns. You can slam a 2-1/2" shell home even in a dirty or fouled 3" chamber. A combat firearm that doesn't go "BANG!" every time you need it to can often get the wrong person killed. Hence why I haven't bought an AR style shotgun. I haven't seen a known make/model that hasn't exhibited problems. It's the only purpose for an AR platform shotgun. If I cannot count on it to go "BANG!" every time, then it isn't going into my cabinet or safe.

For the same reason, I will hone/tune the action, but I rarely use reduced rate trigger return or hammer springs in a combat firearm. Only when I know the originals are extremely over rate. Again, if it doesn't go "BANG!", or the trigger won't reset.....

I have pump, semi-auto and side by side shotguns. I accessorized my rugged, reliable H&R 870 clone for home security. Hogue furniture, see under rail with Fastfire 3 red dot. Fiber optic front sight. LED light. Velcro shot cards. Fore stock strap and quick adjust sling. I have a Mossberg 590A1, 940 Pro, 500 Tactical 20", and a cheap but reliable Maverick 88 (upgraded). I sold my Franchi LAW-12 years ago. It was too finicky. Hard to beat a pump shotgun for reliability and simplicity. Of course, a 12 ga Coach Gun will certainly get the job done.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Got an email today, the Panzer Arms Ar-12 is on sale cheap enough to consider trying it. If I can make it reliable, cool, if not, it's not a huge loss.

[hazmatt]

I was curious what it went for and I found one listed for $199. I figured they cost a bunch more then that.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I was curious what it went for and I found one listed for $199. I figured they cost a bunch more then that.

They're imports, a lot are made in Turkey. Another reason I'm not huge on spending the money, I like to support U.S. made products and manufacturers. Still, I'm considering one, and a couple of higher capacity magazines. If I can make it reliable....

However, I just bought a DSA Gray Wolf FAL clone, DM rifle. It needs a scope, rings, a rear sight, a fire control upgrade, and a couple of spare magazines. I'm working on a battle rifle collection. I need another Garand, an M-14 and a BM-59 (James River makes nice examples of both), and a G3. CMP is apparently going to have new Garands, forged receiver and match grade barrels, they're setting up to manufacture. I'd like to have an original again, too.