ENY 29?

[The Fugitive]

8-10 eastern

[Mayhem]

Eny has been a feces fest for 2 decades. it doesn't do Jack to balance sides and it just drives people away from the game.
Why change sides when you can change games and not have to deal with the frustrating Bovine feces that is ENY?

[Dadtallica]

Some of you take this all way too seriously and play way too much. Less than 100 people are generally playing at any time. Just play or don’t. Try touching grass now and then.

[RotBaron]

Related but slightly off topic:  would requiring players to fly a plane above ENY 5 be that bad say after 5 sorties? Ex: on sortie 6th you must fly ENY = 10+ for one sortie (Tier I), you get 1 ENY 5 credit for that sortie, fly next tier ENY (12?) you get two, fly next tier ENY (III - 20+) you get three 5 ENY credits. And on…

I know my ENY numbers aren’t perfectly correlated to their MA values, it’s the point here, it’s the general idea that we have a system that doesn’t function as great as it once did with 80+ on each side going at it.

This idea of course is going to be opposed by the ENY 5 only pilots, but how can they say they want realism and that’s what sets AH apart when for the majority of WW2, the ENY 5 planes, firstly weren’t built yet, and after they were it still wasn’t all Pony-D escort, or K-4s and Doras….

Also separate but more related, ENY values for GVs don’t correspond to their Fighter counterparts. Tiger II is our only ENY 5 (heavily perked of course) but they could correspond roughly to the aircraft that perform comparable/similar. Ex: P47M is somewhat like the Panther…  Also, nearly all tank units for Germany were still rolling PzIVs w/the Panthers & Tigers to the very end and late war T34/85 were highly protected (I.e. not frontline foder = therefore fewer (yes there was a huge production discrepancy Germany vs USSR at end). T34/85 should roughly be the equivalent of the ENY 5 heavily perked fighters like Tempest.

HT, sir, you of course make these decisions, the best we can do is offer ideas, but if I may ask you to consider two things, one you’ve mentioned = dropping those in tower/lacking input from keyboard/mouse/stik after ~15mins only for ENY calculation (they don’t get booted). The second the Tiered ENY credit system I just mentioned. Afterall 5 sorties is a lot before the ENY 5 only guys would have to have just one Tier II+ sortie to get back in the ENY ride. Yes, some will choose a P-39 click N runway and then tower, but that hurts score and many of the ENY 5 pilots also care about their score. I’m flying for score this tour and I’m seeing many more are concerned with it than I thought.

I know you have more to consider than I can imagine, but maybe the Tier ENY credit system is an idea that leads to a better idea you design.

Thank you if you read my long-winded post!

 

[Animl-AW]

When is considered prime time here?

7p-9p CT. Seen thing strong until 10 ish

[Lazerr]

I'll bet you a dollar that having folks in the tower not equating to eny would go a long ways...

[Banshee7]

I'll bet you a dollar that having folks in the tower not equating to eny would go a long ways...

always thought ENY should only factor those "in flight"

[Dadtallica]

always thought ENY should only factor those "in flight"

Doesn’t that only benefit the of the tower sitter who gets to pick a plane with a lower entry to join the game and make ent worse for the next guy?

[uptown]

Or just don't let the players decide at all. The game will put you on the side with lowest numbers at login automatically.

ENY is 100% a problem caused by the players and history has shown that they are unwilling to fix this. So now let the game control it seeing as how players are more concerned with country loyalty than the health of the game. You reap what you sow 

[caldera]

always thought ENY should only factor those "in flight"

Imagine what would happen if 20 out of 25 players on one country sat in the tower, in order to launch a Tempest mission to steamroll the country that has 6 out of 7 players in the air. 

[The Fugitive]

Or just don't let the players decide at all. The game will put you on the side with lowest numbers at login automatically.

ENY is 100% a problem caused by the players and history has shown that they are unwilling to fix this. So now let the game control it seeing as how players are more concerned with country loyalty than the health of the game. You reap what you sow 

And this would do away with all squads. Many player like to fly in squads, I know I do.

[uptown]

And this would do away with all squads. Many player like to fly in squads, I know I do.

Well, what about the country with all the numbers have their factories brought down to 0%? Meaning no or limited fuel, ords, radar, troops and ack...except for manned guns. And low numbers countries factories brought up to 100% automatically, giving them the advantage in that way.
That would force the mob into strictly fighters...for the most part, and halt the base taking until numbers leveled out. In effect placing ENY on resources.

[icepac]

Heaven forbid any pilot might need to protect his country strats. 

Lets remove more strategy from the sim like when 49ers took long trips to the strats and nobody could be bothered to simply up a fighter and look around.     

Many of the whiners were whining from their spawn camps 15 sectors from the 5 tanks taking two days to drive to HQ and bomb it down.

Instead, the lazy vocal minority cried loudly resulting in vehicle dar which removed a lot of strategy and tactics from the sim. 

Someone earlier is correct that it is the players to blame and he is correct.

[The Fugitive]

Well, what about the country with all the numbers have their factories brought down to 0%? Meaning no or limited fuel, ords, radar, troops and ack...except for manned guns. And low numbers countries factories brought up to 100% automatically, giving them the advantage in that way.
That would force the mob into strictly fighters...for the most part, and halt the base taking until numbers leveled out. In effect placing ENY on resources.

With ENY as it is now your "limiting resources" in the form of the uber planes, kicking some people out of their favorite rides. Instead you propose to limit ALL resources to EVERYONE for the duration of the number imbalance. How is that better?

ENY works. Instead of taking one hvy fighter to drop a hanger, you need two and with the better numbers that works. There are only two problems with ENY .... first the crybabies that cant seem to fly a different fighter for what ever reason...... and second the numbers. I dont know what the threshold for ENY is, but lets say its 10%. With 100 players per side that would mean 10 players more than the other team starts ENY, with 10 players per side that means only one more play starts ENY. There is a low number threshold where ENY doesnt come in at all, but once population hits that number ENY is on.

So ENY seems horrible because the numbers are so low. It is still doing the job (limiting the team with the better numbers with out completely removing the planes from a player because they can still switch teams) but it can change with only a couple players logging in or out on the same team at the same time. This morning....

Bish have 13 players and a 17.6 ENY
Knights have 3 players and 0 ENY
Rooks have 7 players and 3.9 ENY

If finetime logs in with 3 accounts and one other knight logs in Rooks ENY goes away and Bish drops to around 8. It doesnt take a lot to swing the numbers. Removing the tower sitters from the ENY calculation may help (sit in the tower for more than 10-15 minutes and the game no longer counts you toward ENY) when the numbers are low.

[CAV]

Last time I played one of our competitors' games, Their solution to side balance
was a spawn in delay.

Your side outnumbers everybody else...

30 60 90  Sec.(or longer) Delay sitting on the runway exposed to enemy fire, when your side outnumbers everybody else.

May help break up useless furballs too.

CAV