Calling out player position on 200. Are there consequences for this?

[Devil 505]

Like 50% of the posts on this topic, it is not about the topic but rather pointing out that frustration is what inspired the actions.   

I was pointing out that the base take frustration is largely caused by the very people who are “frustrated” by it.   

I watch an entire country pulled into a badly planned base take attempt where the only thing that results is the feeding of enemy fighter score when hitting fighter hangers before showing up would relieve the frustration. 

Better plans mean less frustration.

Counterpoint: it's healthier for the game if the tide changes in a battle because the cap failed rather than porking the fighter hangars altogether.

[Animl-AW]

I thin there is a natural divide on this subject. However, end result mire often than not hangars aren’t killed. Some like base capture to win, some like the battle it brings by not dumping them.

[icepac]

I certainly won't be participating in base takes that are guaranteed to fail.

[Animl-AW]

I certainly won't be participating in base takes that are guaranteed to fail.

Well, we just hijacked this thread

Thats on side’s point and truth to it. You can commit resources and time to a take, yet one single plane up and kill one single troop, you have to rewind. Realistically in RL dumping hangars would b exactly what one would do. There’s many other bases to start a new battle.

The other side tends to want to prolog the battle for it.

One problem I see with the latter is the linger you hold on to one base battle, the longer it takes to change the map. There are plenty of bases to jeep starting new battles.

Same with gang bangs, it’s not changing the map. The last map lasted 5+ days because GBing knits 5 days in a row. That wins nothing and its not good game play. You get hit with two negatives in country GBs. If the GB causes log offs down to 18 you’ve over exerted being aholes. You just lost 10-15 players.Now you have 3 negatives. The oxymoron is now wonder how we can get higher numbers <blank stare>

I don’t agree with never dumping hangars, but some do and have their reasons. <shrug>

[molybdenum]

Honestly, It doesn’t bother me. I was just painting a picture of how others may perceive it. I don’t have issue with either of you.

In both situations I walked in mid convo. When I did you were raggin him about exposing you. It appeared you were relighting the fire doing so.

What he did was heat of the moment reaction...

He did it 3x in the space of 15 minutes and again a couple of hours later. That's not a heat of the moment thing. That's intentionally malicious.
I was ragging him for exposing me not to relight any fire (which, see above, was already burning and continued to burn, no need of my help in that regard) but because it was excrement and I wanted it known throughout 200. Peer pressure might have made a difference. So might have a mod. So I wanted it public.

Speaking of mods, apparently one watched as it all happened. Why on earth was something not said or done? Wouldn't the calling out on 200 thing have been self-evidently awful?

"I don't recall any guideline on this." Dear Lord. Really?

What are mods there for, if not to moderate things like this?

[JimmyD3]

He did it 3x in the space of 15 minutes and again a couple of hours later. That's not a heat of the moment thing. That's intentionally malicious.
I was ragging him for exposing me not to relight any fire (which, see above, was already burning and continued to burn, no need of my help in that regard) but because it was excrement and I wanted it known throughout 200. Peer pressure might have made a difference. So might have a mod. So I wanted it public.

Speaking of mods, apparently one watched as it all happened. Why on earth was something not said or done? Wouldn't the calling out on 200 thing have been self-evidently awful?

"I don't recall any guideline on this." Dear Lord. Really?

What are mods there for, if not to moderate things like this?

I thought  you hated the mods.

[molybdenum]

I thought  you hated the mods.

I dislike mod overreach and selective behavior. Warning and muting players who have not broken any rules simply because they don't like what those players are saying, yet not doing the same to people whose behavior is far more egregious?

A previous poster made the excellent point that someone who-shall-not-be-named was banned from the game entirely for calling out the positions of people he wanted dead to colleagues on other teams. This was essentially the same thing; and yet the mod did nothing?

I deduce nothing was done because the behavior continued, in the presence of a mod, for at least 15 minutes, and continued some hours later when I logged back on again.

You see my point, I hope.

[icepac]

Someone who-shall-not-be-named did more than report people's position in that he asked people not on his country to provide my position long before he cooked his goose.

[JimmyD3]

I don't know all the specifics of the actions of "he will not be named", but from what I have heard, what he was doing and what happened to you, are not the same. 

[Animl-AW]

By lightyears.

That said, back in band camp I was a GA/Mod. Most of the clams made against mods are thriving and hanging on to victimhood. I still know what passes and what doesn’t.

I rarely used my privs. No one gave me any issues. Some horrible things went on 200 and zero was done. It depends who tolerates what with the rule given.

Most that complain are also in common scrolling text buffer purse fights, streams of insults by both. Know when to stop.

This convo is over-talked. No lives were changed.

Nothing will be fixed here nor 200.

Its a Cod damn game.

[icepac]

I don't know all the specifics of the actions of "he will not be named", but from what I have heard, what he was doing and what happened to you, are not the same. 

As an enemy player, skyyr asked and got help from a player on my country so skyyr could show up at 40k in a mossie exactly where I was still climbing and had no chance to build speed.   

I could post the film and communication between myself and the guy Skyyr enlisted because the enlistee accidently texted me with something that was meant for Skyyr fully exposing what he was doing.   

That guy is still flying and is mad I have continued to hold a grudge.   
I'll post the film of the exchanges if he continues to act the fool.

[molybdenum]

I don't know all the specifics of the actions of "he will not be named", but from what I have heard, what he was doing and what happened to you, are not the same. 

Skyrr communicated cross country to direct friends to attack ppl he disliked.

000Trapr announced on 200 where I was--at least four times--in the hopes that someone would vector in to shoot me down.

It's not the same. But it's not very much different, either.

The mod was okay with this?

[Animl-AW]

Skyrr communicated cross country to direct friends to attack ppl he disliked.

000Trapr announced on 200 where I was--at least four times--in the hopes that someone would vector in to shoot me down.

It's not the same. But it's not very much different, either.

The mod was okay with this?

That was his first ban, they let him back in and did more damage way way beyond that that got him permabanned. You teo situation are NOT even close. I’m not going into details.

Relax, you’re playing is fine. All you got was a 10 min mute. There are much bigger fish to fry.

[Devil 505]

000Trapr announced on 200 where I was--at least four times--in the hopes that someone would vector in to shoot me down.

Why couldn't he do it himself?

[Animl-AW]

Why couldn't he do it himself?

They are on the same side. <blank stare> It's mostly on country channel. I explained upstream.