Mig23 vs F4E vs SAMs

[Spikes]

As someone who did work in retail for 10 years, that's a challenge to turn that guy's opinion around.

I used to do this all the time, and loved seeing these changed opinions walking in week after week, all it takes is open honesty in delivering the facts and good points of what you are trying to sell.
To be honest, by acknowledging your own products weak points then stating multiple positives and and advantages while being open and honest about it, you actually gain a more loyal customer once turned, as you have developed trust in yourself as the representative and the product you're endorsing.

If you cannot deliver opposing arguments and more positives because you are spending 100% of your time shutting down any opposing view, well... You've not only lost trust but you risk losing a wider audience as they start to question "why are they getting shut down" and go off to research for themselves.
And what I have just mentioned is the beginning of the slippery slope of customer hemorrhaging.

I don't disagree, for the most part. I spent 6 years in retail and there were plenty with open minds but plenty close-minded folks who wanted no business attempting to have their opinion changed.

If someone has their mind so made up that they decide to hop on here and disparage the game or community, I wouldn't blame any community member for not wanting to take the time to help or be a Dr. Phil and figure out why they are disgruntled or upset. Some do, though. There are people who show up who are trying it out for the first time or returning after a long hiatus and they get the assistance needed, from what I can see, and are grateful for it.

[AKIron]

I'm not telling anyone what they can or can't say but if comments disparaging AH here were ignored there would be no arguments in this regard and fewer of those type comments. When you get someone defending the game in a very aggressive manner you evoke a response in kind. Just sayin'.

[Spikes]

I'm not telling anyone what they can or can't say but if comments disparaging AH here were ignored there would be no arguments in this regard and fewer of those type comments. When you get someone defending the game in a very aggressive manner you evoke a response in kind. Just sayin'.

I don't disagree. Fortunately, there is really only one person who would throw themselves on a grenade to defend the game to that extent. 

[AKIron]

I don't disagree. Fortunately, there is really only one person who would throw themselves on a grenade to defend the game to that extent. 

I agree. He tries to provoke or agitate and then people respond more forcefully than they really feel about the game. Sometimes you just have to ignore and there is a button for that. 

[hazmatt]

Are you saying the guy who shared how to hack the game is someone who cares enough to be part of the community?

I got tired of people accusing of hacks and others saying there were no such thing...What I posted was proof that they existed. That's all...

I didn't know that I had to be part of and accepted by some "community" to be here. Last I checked it was open to anybody who wanted to participate. I made it clear I'm here for the few guys that are still around since AWdos days and a few of the newer guys who are interesting and not jerks.

[Tumor]

And yet's it's still so much fun watching the evil squirm when the truth is shoved in its face.

 

[Tumor]

I say this as someone who plays IL2 semi-regularly.

So how's it going over there these days.  It's been probably two years or more since I went on an MP server.  It was fun for awhile, but it was mostly a bunch of people floating around waiting for the "airfield X is under attack" so they could all rush over and pig pile the loan guy trying to bomb... or the like.  When I do play it, I mostly just do Insta-Action stuff.

[LCADolby]

So how's it going over there these days.  It's been probably two years or more since I went on an MP server.  It was fun for awhile, but it was mostly a bunch of people floating around waiting for the "airfield X is under attack" so they could all rush over and pig pile the loan guy trying to bomb... or the like.  When I do play it, I mostly just do Insta-Action stuff.

Pretty much unchanged

[Animl-AW]

HILARIOUS

Not only was I NOT the first to reply, obviously it's not just me irritated that the same FORMER PLAYERS disparage the game in public view of new or returning players. CONSTANTLY. Lets try not to mention 15-70 pages of pure undue drama repeatedly by the same people. I wouldn't do that <eye roll>

This innocent act is nonsense. Ya don't post 4-5 post about another game in a Scenario Announcement if there are not malice intentions. It's NOT rocket science, unless you're a 3yr old.

This is only rocket science to those who PLAY ignorant, after being asked not to 300 times but SEVERAL PAYING PLAYERS. And AGAIN, for those who refuse to pay attention, or retain ANYTHING, even in it's simplest form ***>>>I was not the first reply nor the only to reply.<<<***

Grow up, not a damn thing innocent about these guys and I can pull up many threads to show malice intent. Ya know like a 128 page post putting down AH and pushing DCS. Oh ya, it's alllll me. (for god sakes)

The aim was to discredit me to the masses because I said I might be able to help,...from day one of my return, I didn't have time to F up. I already have the threads pulled up.

Makes one feel like they just watched One Flew Over the Coocoo's Nest.

I need to take an acid bath to wash this puke off.

[LCADolby]

Ya don't post 4-5 post about another game in a Scenario Announcement

Got a link and the quotes?

disparage the game in public view of new or returning players

Got proof?  Quote it and Link it.

15-20 pages of pure undue drama repeatedly by the same people.

Show me and link it.

being asked not to 300 times

Unless the asking comes from HiTech, it's allowed, and not yours or anyone else's place to moderate the conversations as per the BBS rules.

I can pull up many threads to show malice intent

Link them Quote them Show them.

The aim was to discredit me to the masses because I said I might be able to help,...from day one of my return, I didn't have time to F up. I already have the threads pulled up.

Pull them up. I'll wait.


All you care to present without full context in order to obfuscate reality is invalid.

[Animl-AW]

Got a link and the quotes?

Got proof?  Quote it and Link it.

Show me and link it.

Unless the asking comes from HiTech, it's allowed, and not yours or anyone else's place to moderate the conversations as per the BBS rules.

Link them Quote them Show them.

Pull them up. I'll wait.


All you care to present without full context in order to obfuscate reality is invalid.

you are so far removed from RL life a you don't even fit into it anymore. And I'm not going to add to your drama addiction on your command to do so and further pork this thread for your immature entertainment.

if I was moderating you'd be gone. I don't moderate. I also don't say I won't return until you're gone or you should eat D**k.

Lets get you on the book, are you denying what I said you and trips did to me, you're calling me a liar right? Yes or No (oh please be Yes I can't wait for this.)

[LCADolby]

You say this;

I already have the threads pulled up.

So I challenge you to do exactly what you have said you are already admitting to be prepared to do, and suddenly you get constipation...

You are so full of turds you should change your name to Dulcolax.

You utter clown.

[Animl-AW]

You say this;
So I challenge you to do exactly what you have said you are already admitting to be prepared to do, and suddenly you get constipation...

You are so full of turds you should change your name to Dulcolax.

You utter clown.

Answer the question drama queen

You're a damn child and act like one.

[Animl-AW]

Go ahead say Yes I'm lying and I'll finish you off like mashed potatoes.

You earn every single bit you get from me. Not one thing innocent about you. You BEG for it to troll me to fire up and get booted. You troll for it then cry when it comes, and I'm going to finish you off

[LCADolby]

Provide the links and proof I have already requested and that you have claimed you were ready to provide and then I will happily address your deflection question.