Game called due to lack of interest

[Oldman731]

One would think that a player base shrunk by the decades would be close knit. That may be the case but it doesn't look like that from the perspective here on this board. More than a little crowing and complaining. Beat me up if you must, sticks and stones....

You ought to try logging on in the evenings.  Generally speaking, people get along quite well.  There are exceptions, but the ambiance in the arena is much more pleasant than it sometimes is on these boards.

- oldman

[Animl-AW]

You two just made my very point for me.  Prime example right there folks

[AKIron]

You ought to try logging on in the evenings.  Generally speaking, people get along quite well.  There are exceptions, but the ambiance in the arena is much more pleasant than it sometimes is on these boards.

- oldman

That must be the case or the game would be dead.

[Animl-AW]

That must be the case or the game would be dead.

Please continue

[DmonSlyr]

Lowering the price at this point would be foolish.

The remaining population is not price sensitive and intends to stay regardless of any new development.  You won't lose any of the remaining by keeping the price where is it, and you're not going to get any meaningful new population by lowering it.

You would just choose to earn less off the same customer base.

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Besides, he has been lowering the price every year since 2000.

I sorta disagree with that. Economy of scale would suggest that lowering the price would increase demand. Especially with a promotion on Steam or what have you. Whether It could pay the bills or not is another story.

I think HTC is stuck as this rate due to server costs ect, and he doesnt have a huge company/investors to back additional losses. Plus, would those investors be good for gameplay? IDK... but I doubt it.


I like the free plane set option myself but only super early war planes so that even a very skilled player couldn't dominate in them. They would make good fodder for the rest of us and it would convince them to subscribe.

I do believe that there is a difference in perception for some reason buying video games vs a happy meal. I dont know why, but there is. Im not sure if there is a name yet for that phenomenon. That being said, you arent going to attract many college kids or young kids if their parents arent paying. I didnt play in college. I was lucky to have H2H in 2005, or I might not have been interested enough in convincing my dad to pay the sub when I was 15, since the MA was just too big. I became a 190D dweeb like the rest when I first started the MA after h2h closed.  .

[Elfie]

But again Aces High and DCS only compete for the players time and many people don't have time to spend 25 minutes just getting their airplane started. Even if they where competing for the players dollar most don't have the money in current times for a $5,000+ gaming rig capable of running the game in a state that it looks really good specially in VR.

0B5&t=648]

Firstly, I'm not aware of any aircraft that takes 25 minutes to start up and to my knowledge, all of them have an auto-start feature. The F-5E's auto start is bugged so you'll have to start it manually but after 2 or 3 practice runs you should be able to do it. I can start the F-14 Tomcat while watching a video of a real one being started on the deck of a carrier and keep up. I practiced the start up procedure 8-10 times before I raced the YouTube video. I can't seem to find that particular video but here is one showing how to start it in 60 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZkRkumWB4aY

Secondly, you don't need a $5,000 gaming rig to play. I used to play on a 3.4ghz quad core AMD, 16gb ram and a 1080Ti with 3g ram. I had some FR issues in multiplayer but it ran just fine in single player. Then I upgraded to an 8 core AMD, 32gb ram and a 3070 video card with 8gb ram. The second computer was an HP machine and when the DIMMs started going bad I had to rebuild.

I now run an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 core cpu with liquid cooling, 128g ram, an ASUS ROG motherboard with an 1100 watt power supply. I moved both drives (4TB NvME and 6TB HDD) and the 3070 video card over from the old machine, and bought a new Winblows license for about $1800. The game runs flawlessly although I don't play in VR and might not ever try due to motion sickness issues. I sold one of my Hobie kayaks and paid off the credit card I used.

 *Edit* As far as multi player goes, players host servers and I've seen some with as high as 200 players allowed.

[CptTrips]

I sorta disagree with that. Economy of scale would suggest that lowering the price would increase demand.

That would only work if you believed there was a large cloud of potential customers just waiting to signup if it were just a little cheaper.

You know there are hotels that intentionally leave rooms empty when the season rate isn't worth the staff costs to turn the rooms. 

Sometimes there is no price point either provider or customer can agree on.  For certain products, the potential customers aren't will to pay what it's worth to bother with.

And I believe we are about to enter an economic period that makes the GFC look like child's play, so the sell is even harder to make.

AH took a real kick to the stones from the GFC.  They never came back.

[CptTrips]

0B5&t=648]

Firstly, I'm not aware of any aircraft that takes 25 minutes to start up and to my knowledge, all of them have an auto-start feature. The F-5E's auto start is bugged so you'll have to start it manually but after 2 or 3 practice runs you should be able to do it. I can start the F-14 Tomcat while watching a video of a real one being started on the deck of a carrier and keep up. I practiced the start up procedure 8-10 times before I raced the YouTube video. I can't seem to find that particular video but here is one showing how to start it in 60 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZkRkumWB4aY

Secondly, you don't need a $5,000 gaming rig to play. I used to play on a 3.4ghz quad core AMD, 16gb ram and a 1080Ti with 3g ram. I had some FR issues in multiplayer but it ran just fine in single player. Then I upgraded to an 8 core AMD, 32gb ram and a 3070 video card with 8gb ram. The second computer was an HP machine and when the DIMMs started going bad I had to rebuild.

I now run an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 core cpu with liquid cooling, 128g ram, an ASUS ROG motherboard with an 1100 watt power supply. I moved both drives (4TB NvME and 6TB HDD) and the 3070 video card over from the old machine, and bought a new Winblows license for about $1800. The game runs flawlessly although I don't play in VR and might not ever try due to motion sickness issues. I sold one of my Hobie kayaks and paid off the credit card I used.

On the other hand there are a lot of players out there with insane systems they have spent thousands on, and they want something more impressive than IL2 1946 to use it on.

DCS does play to the crowd that want to take it to the limits of hardware.    They spent a lot of money and they want it to look it.

Like someone with a Ferrari stuck in 20mph school zones.

[Elfie]

Ruin another thread, blithering idiot. How many paragraphs in Mayhem post?
Who the hell do you think you are? You’re just a drama queen who who helped ruin the ladt thread you stuck your polluted finger in.

Stfu

With repeated posts similar to this one, how do you NOT get banned? Inquiring minds want to know. 

[CptTrips]

You ought to try logging on in the evenings.  Generally speaking, people get along quite well.  There are exceptions, but the ambiance in the arena is much more pleasant than it sometimes is on these boards.

- oldman

I dunno.

Every time Shame posts one of his muting screens, the conversations look pretty hostile.

If there a material difference in tone between day and night crews?

[Elfie]

On the other hand there are a lot of players out there with insane systems they have spent thousands on, and they want something more impressive than IL2 1946 to use it on.

DCS does play to the crowd that want to take it to the limits of hardware.    They spent a lot of money and they want it to look it.

Like someone with a Ferrari stuck in 20mph school zones.

Those people are in a lot of games, it's mostly a genital measuring issue.   

If I wanted to play in VR I would have to upgrade my video card and since the 4000 series aren't being manufactured any longer I'd have to go with a 5000 series and that can be quite pricy.

[CptTrips]

Those people are in a lot of games, it's mostly a genital measuring issue.   

Oh sure, there is always that.

There is also the guy who just wants to keep pushing it further towards an ideal of Matrix style insertion into the game world. 

Sorry, graphics is part of it.  Not all of it, but not irrelevant.  The market has pretty much proven that.

[Elfie]

Oh sure, there is always that.

There is also the guy who just wants to keep pushing it further towards an ideal of Matrix style insertion into the game world. 

Sorry, graphics is part of it.  Not all of it, but not irrelevant.  The market has pretty much proven that.

Oh yeah, they are the ones that have to have the latest and greatest of everything. Those folks will be like that until they run out of coin.

[AKIron]

No more upgrading for me in the foreseeable future but I have spare machines, two of which satisfy my requirements. The US is ramping up to produce all sorts of "chips" and I think we'll see more competitive pricing in the not too distant future.

[ZE]

Traveler you two get a lot done with your 38s with unrelenting attacks.  Very impressive.

Agree with Randy,
Saw you two doing a silent job attacking targets relentlessly. A few times I had  fighting yours 38 with fear and joy seeing you guys don't run but fight. AH still the best game in Combat Simulator is the simulator market, like others mentioned, nothing like the MA environment. I believe the issue is that young people want instant gratification without spending time in the learning process, besides the fact that WW2 is too in the past for many of them ( except when WW2 movies are shown in theaters ). Wonder who can promote this game on Steam or high level ?
ZE