Let me tell a true AH story…

[Blade]

When the radar system was updated to its current version, I asked for it to be changed back, but since most of the feedback was positive, I gave up.
I’m still not satisfied with the current radar system.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,394591

[LCADolby]

I’m still not satisfied with the current radar system.

I agree with you Blade-san 

NonDots and AWACS are not good for gameplay.

[LilMak]

When the radar system was updated to its current version, I asked for it to be changed back, but since most of the feedback was positive, I gave up.
I’m still not satisfied with the current radar system.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,394591

There were many who thought it was a good idea at the time and have since reversed their opinions. AWACS is just not good for the overall health of the game. Players may not see it because it’s been a boon for their style of play. I get that. The problem is it comes at the expense of the game as a whole. If you think of it from a predator/prey analogy, the predators love it until they kill off the prey. Then they starve slowly but surely. AWACS has that effect on the offense/defense balance of the game. It’s thrown that balance in favor of the offense and hamstrung defense.

[Shane]

There were many who thought it was a good idea at the time and have since reversed their opinions. AWACS is just not good for the overall health of the game. Players may not see it because it’s been a boon for their style of play. I get that. The problem is it comes at the expense of the game as a whole. If you think of it from a predator/prey analogy, the predators love it until they kill off the prey. Then they starve slowly but surely. AWACS has that effect on the offense/defense balance of the game. It’s thrown that balance in favor of the offense and hamstrung defense.

I'm just laughing that the new plane type on clipboard map arrived too late for Skyyr to take advantage of. 

[Eagler]

He should at least change the directional icons to dots..

That seems like a good compromise to start with..

It's not like we are asking for FSO settings....

Eagler

[hazmatt]

It's not like we are asking for FSO settings....

I think FSO settings in main would be awesome! Would be some real Hartman stuff going on.

[Animl-AW]

He should at least change the directional icons to dots..

That seems like a good compromise to start with..

It's not like we are asking for FSO settings....

Eagler

Agreed

[LilMak]

He should at least change the directional icons to dots..

That seems like a good compromise to start with..

It's not like we are asking for FSO settings....

Eagler

Helpful but it doesn’t address the real problem which is using the clipboard for r real time location information.

[Animl-AW]

I think FSO settings in main would be awesome! Would be some real Hartman stuff going on.

Yes, No and Maybe

Yes
It puts things in perspective and closer to realism.

No
That is a good draw for events and reason to step out of the sandbox. It’s kinda like a trade mark. Not as inclusive to newer players.

Maybe
Something similar reserving the extent for events.

Eagler compromise may be just that. Baby steps. Nothing crazy.

Many are conditioned to the current. It’s now subconscious. A big shakeup is not advised. Older don’t like abrupt change.

[Animl-AW]

Helpful but it doesn’t address the real problem which is using the clipboard for r real time location information.

Baby steps

No one has come to a conclusive point that HT will change anything, yet.

I’d go to Las Vegas and bet large sums HT will not buy into drastic changes.

[LilMak]

Baby steps

No one has come to a conclusive point that HT will change anything, yet.

I’d go to Las Vegas and bet large sums HT will not buy into drastic changes.

HT implemented drastic changes. I’m pretty sure he can do the same in reverse.

[Animl-AW]

HT implemented drastic changes. I’m pretty sure he can do the same in reverse.

I think you’ll lose that bet.

I don’t mind being wrong.

You may get there in time. Not all at once, if ever.

[Animl-AW]

Never go into court with a case you can’t win for sure.
Only bring forward what you know you can win.

Ask for too much at once you may end up with nothing.

Eagler has something HT may find a compromise in. That has possibilities of winnable.

You can take something now and lobby for more later. You’ve been at this for years. I don’t think you’ll stop.

[LilMak]

I think you’ll lose that bet.

I don’t mind being wrong.

You may get there in time. Not all at once, if ever.

AWACS, icon radar, player killed player in the text buffer all came out at about the same time. I’m only asking for AWACS to go away in flight. Keep it in the tower. Make it useful if there’s a plane that had a radar option selectable in the hangar (JU88, Black Widow, Mossi and such). AKA. Baby steps.

[Animl-AW]

AWACS, icon radar, player killed player in the text buffer all came out at about the same time. I’m only asking for AWACS to go away in flight. Keep it in the tower. Make it useful if there’s a plane that had a radar option selectable in the hangar (JU88, Black Widow, Mossi and such). AKA. Baby steps.

I understand your point. I do not disagree.
I personally go on what is inclusive to new players, not lose numbers and what may be winnable right now.

IMO, asking for a complete overhaul in one flick of the switch is a high bar to meet.

Yes, it kicked up dust when this was implemented, but I also assume a lesson of cation may have been learned. Don’t expect the same in reverse.

Again, I just don’t see the masses begging for something that deep.

Do you want some change or no change?

Hey, never say never.