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Offline JimBear

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2000, 01:06:00 PM »
An interesting idea, what you are proposing is that each field be enabled of a particular type of aircraft? maybe a 1 runway field with 1 type and a 3 runway with 3 different types enabled? I sort of like it but feel that the MA is not the place for it. You site the heavy Fuzzball activity going on that looks at times like a lemming rush to the same spot. That seems cyclical, and I would bet the next tours map will have a big cause/effect change on it. As it is now, you can still be as Strat minded as you want,and over fly what doesnt interest you.

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2000, 01:09:00 PM »
Well, the strat is there in the MA to take advantage of, or not. For the strat junkies -  go for it... Only got an hour to fly? Furball it.

The MA aint the kind of place to introduce these kinds of limitations... In an HA, perhaps... In the scenarios, definately.

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2000, 01:14:00 PM »
fscott,
If you limit it by airfield, what happens when one side starts to lose?

What happens is people jump sides to one that can fly their aircraft, thus weakening the losing side even more.  Or they log out and hope a the arena has reset before they log on next.

Why stay and try to defend against hopeless odds when all you can fly are C.202s and A6M5bs?

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2000, 01:27:00 PM »
Obviously there would be details to work out, and there's no way to work the quirks out here, but it is an idea I think HT and crew could make work if they wanted to.

The object would be to limit the number of the same kind of planes you encounter.  Personally I get bored battling the same F4U's and Niki's in my lowly Zero.  Yeah you got me, the secret agenda here is to force you guys to fly some non-dweeb planes!

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2000, 01:48:00 PM »
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Which planes shall be rationed and which shall not?  A6M5 and 202 are the only ones that people have not (yet) whined about being overmodeled.

 Those damn a6ms are ufo's No way a plane can do the manouvers it can and conserve E the way it does. 202 is baiscly the same thing but uglier, I say remove em both.

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2000, 03:55:00 PM »
 
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A6M5 and 202 are the only ones that people have not (yet) whined about being overmodeled.

You sure Funked?  

I'm was thinking that Citabria started a thread a while back about the C.202 being too good  

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2000, 04:06:00 PM »
I think the point here shouldn't be to limit type of aircraft or vehicles, but to limit their numbers.  A base should be able to service and store a limited number of vehicles.  If the stores are depleted, from say multiple players respawning over and over, then the net effect should be similar to the VHs, BHs or FHs being down.  The replenishment of stores should be tied to the countries overall health, or at some stage to resupply lines.

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2000, 04:50:00 PM »
I got it!!! Just make the plane restrictions on a personal level. If you die in your chog you can't fly another till your base spawns another for you. This way no one else can use up your planes. But it will add a bit of a death penalty and maybe people will be a little less kamikaze'ish. Maybe it'd even cut down on HO's  

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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2000, 05:03:00 PM »
Restrict Uberplanes to main fields.

Makes uberplanes more rare.

Rewards safe landings (allows you to rearm your uberplane at front line fields).

Gives advantage to defenders of main fields.  (They defend with uberplanes, attackers get non-uberplanes.)

Just submit a list of uberplanes to HTC for restriction, and the problem is solved.  

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2000, 05:03:00 PM »
Fscott I see what you are saying now, doing it on a field by field basis.  That would be alright with me IF it was on a player by player basis too.  

I.e. if I use up 5 C-hogs from A5, I don't get any more for an hour.  I either have to switch fields of fly the D-hog.

But I don't want to be disallowed from flying the C-hog because other pilots used them up.

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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2000, 05:39:00 PM »
Yes, I think there are a multitude of ways to implement the idea in one fashion or another. The real focus here is imagine how much more depth the sim would have.  That's my focus.  I would like to get rid of the "kamikaze" stlye of fighting that many people have.  They just keep getting back into their favourite uber and off they go again head-on into the furball.  

That may be fun, but it is in no way realistic.  It not only lessens the realism for the pilot, but also for those who are conscientious pilots who want to have a *reason* for protecting their equipment.  Do you really think that a pilot who has the golden opprtunity to fly the rare Ta-152 is going to go full bore into a furball if he knows that there are only a few of the Ta-152's at a particular airstrip? No way, he's gonna be very careful the enemy he selects to fight, then he is going to do his darnest to watch his fuel, and make a soft landing, then refuel, resupply, and off he goes again.  Think about it, it gives you a reason to do the "secondary" things like landing and resupplying.  I know some of you attempt to land and keep a good score, but with rations, you would *feel* the need to make it back to base and land safely.

And of course, if you don't do those things properly you could still fly a Ta152, but just from another base farther from the main area of action, as long as that base wasn't being attacked or dwindled.

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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2000, 05:43:00 PM »
Funked; just curious; why is the A5 on that list? Except down low, the American z&b'ers have a definitive advantage on it.

G10 can be debated, but make it uber and I'll fly the G2. Damned nice aircraft, the G2.



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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2000, 05:52:00 PM »
 
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Just submit a list of uberplanes to HTC for restriction, and the problem is solved. - popeye

Problem solved? Ooh man I can just imagine the fights among the Uber Selection Commitee members. There would be fistacuffs, mayhem, pandemonium and brouhaha.

Feelings could get hurt.

It'd be much safer in the MA.

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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2000, 06:26:00 PM »
Santa it's a feeble attempt at humor.  The point is that one man's dweeb ride is another man's undermodeled heartbreak.

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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2000, 06:30:00 PM »
See what I mean?