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Offline Possum

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CH USB Gear, WinXP, and new to AH ...
« on: January 16, 2002, 07:55:55 PM »
Hello,

I recently moved my gaming to WindowsXP (Home) and have CH USB gear.  I'm new to AH and WinXP (formerly on Mac and WBs2/3).  

I *think* I have figured out most of the button assignment mapping from the Windows CP (Game Controllers) to AH Buttons, but I'm getting inconsistencies
between what WinXP calls "Button 1" on my F16 FS and what AH calls Button 1, same applies to my CH Pro Throttle.

Also, the new CH USB have one button dedicated to toggling the LEDs on the Pro Throttle and F16 FS.  When I assign these buttons to AH buttons, each
time I toggle to the Red LED on my throttle or FS, AH buttons interpret this as a different AH button, only for this color on the LED.

I suppose I could ignore these two buttons, but if there is a solution I'd love to hear it.  Also, I do not use any CH software with my controllers in WinXP.

Here are my system specs;

AMD Athlon 1.4GHz
Abit A7
1GB Ram
SB Live Platinum value
GF3 video (Asus 8200 Deluxe, Asus 14.62 drivers)
Windows XP Home
CH Pro Throttle USB
CH Pro Pedals USB
CH Pro F16 Fighterstick

I've perused this forum and the AH Help site, and haven't found any answers.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Possum

Offline Doberman

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CH USB Gear, WinXP, and new to AH ...
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2002, 08:25:31 PM »
I'm currently using the same setup (with the exception of XP Pro instead of Home).

The mode change buttons are what's changing the LED's.  You can (using the CH software) map completely different button presses to every key in each of these 3 modes.  So you end up with like a zillion (seems that many, at least. :) ) possible presses.  If you use the software, you can tell it to ignore the mode changes and use those buttons (the one on the upper right side of the FS and the joy/hat press in on the Throttle) just as normal buttons.  It'll still change the color of the LED's, but the end program won't see any difference.

I find it's MUCH easier to use the CH software and have all of my different controls send just a letter instead of mapping the buttons within the game.  The hats are mapped ingame, and I think my fire button is also, but beyond that it's all just sending keyboard presses.  This allows me to more easily build similar maps for all the different flight games I play, often just copying one map to another and making a few tweaks.  And keeps me from having to mess too much with ingame mapping and stick set changes for WB/AH.

If you need any help, feel free to ask away.  I could e-mail you the preliminary map I've put togther for AH.  I Just returned to online flying after a long absence, and am just getting used to CH stuff after years of Thrustmaster, but I think I've put togther a decent map.  (Still have a preorder in for the TM Cougar stuff though.  :)  CH will be relegated to the backup gaming machine.)



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Offline Possum

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2002, 09:57:58 PM »
Doberman,

Thx for the reply.  I don't currently use any CH software as the Win98SE CH software turned me off thier stuff with WBs 2.77.

What I am having trouble with is getting AH buttons (labelled B1 thru B32 in the AH Stick Map window) to Map to my throttle and FS buttons as defined by
WinXP's Game Controller's Control Panel.  I get most buttons to be recognized by AH's Stick Map window, but not all.  Though somehow I got
CH's "change stick set" buttons on my throttle and FS to no longer switch to different AH buttons in AH's Stick Map window.  

An intuitive interface this is NOT, because either WinXP labels controller buttons incorrectly, or AH does.  Who is right and who is wrong remains to be
seen.  But this is an order of magnitude more difficult than another Sim, even under WinXP.

Sigh, any help you can provide would be appreciated.  I'm still used to the Mac's consistency among applications and OS to be well versed in PC Games.

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Offline mkuebeler

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2002, 05:04:53 PM »
Possum, I have the same set of controls.  Subtract 1 from the button number that WinXP shows you in Game Controllers to know the button number that AH sees.  The Fighterstick trigger is button 1 in Game Controllers, so is "Button 0" in the AH joystick selection dialog, and so forth, up to "Button 15".  The confusion is compounded by the Pro Throttle also having "Button 0" through "Button 15".  In my set up I have AH B1-B16 mapped to the Fighterstick "Button 0" to "Button 15", and AH B17-B32 mapped to the Pro Throttle buttons.  

I agree that the control set up in AH is not very intuitive, and not at all well documented.  The hard part is getting the AH "logical" controls (left side of joystick selection) mapped to "physical" controls on the devices (right side of joystick selection).