Author Topic: No more hanger queens!! (Read 869 times)

Hooligan · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2002, 06:16:54 PM »

Theoretically I would like to have an RPS. However from bitter experience HTC knows enough customers hate the idea that it would not be prudent to go that route. Nor do 2 separate arenas work. However, as far as I know, nobody has tried making an arena with Early/Mid and late war areas. From what HTC told me at the convention I believe we may see some variation on this idea coming our way.

HTC knows as well as anybody that Hurris, 109Es, 202s etc... are not going to see much use in the current MA setup. Since the HTC crew
a) are not idiots
b) are adding these early war planes
c) know that an RPS would be unpopular
and
d) know that multiple arenas don't work

they must be planning something. I maybe wrong about what changes are coming to the MA but something surely is going to change. HTC is going to find some way for early war planes to fight each other without having to dodge Doras and Stangs all the time.

Hooligan

J_A_B · « **Reply #31 on:** January 19, 2002, 09:03:02 PM »

"Nor do 2 separate arenas work. "

Really? How odd. Airwarrior successfully used the multiple arena concept for over 10 years. Now you say it doesn't work? That's news to me!

In days past AW had as many as 8 or 9 arenas, all filled with happy players. There was a place for everyone, Europe theatre, Pacific theatre, Europe Axis versus Allies, fightetown, newbie arena, Pacific Axis versus Allies, WW1, Korea, even big pacific with all planes enabled and a replica of Pearl Harbor in the middle (that island made for great tank combat).

Yet now people forget this and think that everyone needs to be shoved into one single arena. What a waste of AH's tremendous potential. Why do people forget the past so quickly and feel the need to re-invent the wheel?

It DOES work, if done properly.

J_A_B

pimpjoe · « **Reply #32 on:** January 19, 2002, 10:22:22 PM »

AH dont have the plane set for that kind of setup yet

BenDover · « **Reply #33 on:** January 19, 2002, 10:33:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Hooligan
Theoretically I would like to have an RPS. However from bitter experience HTC knows enough customers hate the idea that it would not be prudent to go that route. Nor do 2 separate arenas work. However, as far as I know, nobody has tried making an arena with Early/Mid and late war areas. From what HTC told me at the convention I believe we may see some variation on this idea coming our way.

HTC knows as well as anybody that Hurris, 109Es, 202s etc... are not going to see much use in the current MA setup. Since the HTC crew
a) are not idiots
b) are adding these early war planes
c) know that an RPS would be unpopular
and
d) know that multiple arenas don't work

they must be planning something. I maybe wrong about what changes are coming to the MA but something surely is going to change. HTC is going to find some way for early war planes to fight each other without having to dodge Doras and Stangs all the time.

Hooligan

errr, CT???

ergRTC · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2002, 12:58:18 AM »

The pacific europe separation is a good one. I like the MA since all RTC from past and present seem to be flying together now, but I must admit the pacific plane set is my favorite. The F4f and F6F were forces to be contended with. The kate was a great plane, the p51 could do what it was supposed to. Rarely does a zero pilot get 'scared' when 51 comes in, and rarely does a 51 get scared when he sees a zero. I think matching up a pacific theater and europe theater would be a great thing for AH once they get the plane set.

Little bugs me more than seeing a niki when I am flying a 190.

Not because I am worried, but it is just not right. I think we should have at least have a pacific theater with many carriers, and many american and empire planes.

Montezuma · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2002, 05:58:33 AM »

The new planes will see lots more flying time than the perk planes we have now. The F4U-4 is a true hanger queen.

Some people will fly the early planes in the MA; maybe for a perk quest, the cool paint jobs, the challenge, to practice for events, who know why. These planes will for sure be heavily used for events and in the CT.

I understand F4UDOA's point about HTC's resources not going into filling out the late war MA, but I trust they will get around to it.

For the others, we don't need a RPS to force people to fly certain planes and the MA is fine how it is. I like to fight everything with anything, and it is interesting to match up planes that did not fight IRL.

Hristo · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2002, 09:01:05 AM »

I might agree on the 'no RPS' idea. How would it be if I had to wait for 3 weeks only to fly a 262 for one day ? And that be a Saturday evening ?!?

happens that I am a huge 262 fan. I want a 262 24/7

Vermillion · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2002, 09:17:45 AM »

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RPS was the best thing that happened to WB, IMO

Yup and there were many of us that thought it was the second WORST thing that happened to WB's, followed shortly by the worst. Their translation to a purely Axis vs Allied arena.

Many of the "old timers" in AH, are people that left WB's specifically for those two very reasons. Myself included.

Doberman · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2002, 06:08:34 PM »

Sorry J_A_B I'd always considered AW to be little more than a Quake type game, so I never really comment on it when I'm discussing online combat flight sims.

Verm, we'll hafta disgree about the RPS. I think it seriously benefited those who wished to truly become better pilots by forcing them out of their comfort zone and into possibly unfamiliar planes. Ones that they had to work at flying a little bit. This also helped to weed out the chaff. I have little concern or sympathy for those who only wished to zoom around in their uber-plane. (I DO think that they could have done some things a bit difefrently to make the RPS work better & be more appealing to everyone.)

After being there since it went live, I left WB shortly before any Axis vs. Allies thing came about. (In fact, this is the first I've heard of it as I didn't really keep up on happenings.) That woulda been a definate breaker for me tho, if I'd still been around. I like the type vs. type aspect of the MA.

Hooligan, I'm not sure what you mean by "early & late war areas"? All in one arena? Like some sorta boundry that can't be crossed?

I hafta amend my earlier statement that seperate arenas WON'T work just a bit. There were, for a time, seperate early/late arenas in WB. The early arena would be almost vaiable for about 2 hours a nite, with maybe 30 - 40 pilots. Sorta like CT is here. Other than that, it was deserted.

IMO, part of the problem with seperate arenas is that the powers-that-be usually decide that anyone who wants to fly early war planes must also be a masochist and wants to fly without icons or other crutches that we hafta use to overcome the limitations of a computer system. Not so, in most cases. Most of us just wanna fly planes that are relatively competative with each other, without having the uberplanes constantly interrupting the fun.

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