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Offline Eaglecz

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2002, 02:28:29 AM »
you enjoy their dead ... as they enjoy dead of your friends.....

i cant decide whitch of you is bigger foolishness

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2002, 02:35:19 AM »
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Not if they are bad people.....


AND WHO WILL JUDGE WHO IS GOOD AND WHO ISNT ?



this concern about Afghanistan is parade of self-regard,hypocrisy

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2002, 04:28:01 AM »
Osama ben Tumor need to meet a trip mine one day.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2002, 04:35:42 AM »
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It looks like a BTR-70 hitting a land mine.  Cool pics though!


Funked look only at pic 7 and 8 making abstraction of the others ...

Is it so cool ?

If so looking at bodies falling from the Twins was cool to ?

Sincerely I would remove this sentence from your post ...

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2002, 05:28:33 AM »
I decide who is bad. Was that ever in question?


Bad people sometimes need to die, its that simple.

Bad people are those who deliberatly and willfully and intentionally and with no other percieved pretense or cause hurt generally innocent or uninvolved people.


Sometimes they need to die. It makes me glad when they do.

It makes me feel like this:    :D

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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2002, 06:13:51 AM »
you restricted the bad guy definition Grun, it can be also people who don't think like the majority.
As Robespierre (I think ?) said :

majority minus one is allways wrong .

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2002, 06:23:24 AM »
There is nothing wrong if somebody thinks different from the majority. Even if they are nut cases. The problem is when they behave inappropriately.  

Behavior and action is what really counts.

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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2002, 07:17:42 AM »
I agree but Robespierre used to use this sentence to Guillotine a lot of  people...

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at least whe do agree on one point :)

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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2002, 07:30:47 AM »
Well we konw what happend to him, dont we.  :)

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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2002, 07:36:20 AM »
hehe ;)

Nothing like testing your own equipement yourself :D

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2002, 08:32:29 AM »
Human is a predator. We naturally love the taste of flesh (monkeys do too) and we enjoy hunting (in some cases, same species).

Civilized human is same, but with moral values. Those values are there mostly to suppress our animal instincts, so we can act as a society. Army's(which actually equals country leaders) important job in the war is to dehumanize the enemy, so soldiers dont get confuzed. Man with moral values gets confused when hes supposed to kill man "just for the kick of it", 'cause theres no justification for killing, just excuses.
In moral logic, that is.

Americas at war against Talebans, theyre done pretty good job in dehumanization. Im sure this same applies for the Taleban side.

Just wanted to add something intellectual in this flame war..:p

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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2002, 10:37:50 AM »
Dangit, Tuomio beat me to it!

My father was in WW2. He will still tell me how he HATED all Japanese and Germans. He was taught to hate. To see these people as things, as targets, as less than human. People in a war do not have the luxury of seeking the humanity of the enemy. Sad but true.

Please know this Grunherz, there will come a time when you will realize these are fellow humans, no matter how foul.

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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2002, 06:30:36 PM »
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Osama ben Tumor need to meet a trip mine one day.


How dare you compare me to that low-life terrorist.  You are a fool, no more....no less.  Just a simple fool.
"Dogfighting is useless"  :Erich Hartmann

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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2002, 07:55:29 PM »
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This breaking people down into targets, because they are "undeserving" of any acknowledgment as human beings is sickening. You have no way of knowing. There's a lot more to a person than the army they serve.


  Is this the same guy, who thought Jim Brown blowing up some Germans trapped down in a hole, was such a cool movie?


Yes it is. Apples and Oranges. The movie wasn't cool, it was a grim, gritty war story. If you somehow got the impression that I thought that they did good things in that film, you are mistaken.

Let me put it this way: these people are serving in the Taliban or Al Quaeda military. Why? Is it because they are evil and want to kill all the Westerners? Actually, not quite. Many, hell, probably most of them are poorly educated and brainwashed young men. They would kill you without shedding a tear, because they have been told endlessly that you would do the same to them (ironically, you would, to hear what you're saying). They have been told that the Western, Jew-ruled world will stop at nothing to annihilate them from the earth. They believe us to be as evil as we believe them to be. It's not simple hatred, though they do indeed hate us. It's survival. They believe this because there is nothing else to believe that doesn't come from the Great Satan that they have already been warned against.

Yes, they are going to die. Sadly, there isn't much we can do about this, because they believe what they have been told so thoroughly. They will willingly go to their deaths, in fact. Even more sadly, you will rejoice over it. "Another evil terrorist bites the dust." Well. Evil after a fashion...

If there is indeed a hell, I hope that Osama bin Laden and all of his disgusting kind will have a special place there, not only for what they has done to us, but what they have done to their own people. Because of them, there is that much less hope of bridging the gulf of understanding, knowledge, and hate. I hope that this is resolved quickly, but I have a feeling that the repercussions of all of this are going to be pretty far reaching.

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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2002, 01:28:59 AM »
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Funked look only at pic 7 and 8 making abstraction of the others ...

Is it so cool ?

If so looking at bodies falling from the Twins was cool to ?

Sincerely I would remove this sentence from your post ...


You're a self rightous idiot . It is a cool pic, and if you infer that to mean that I think that it is great that the people in it were killed, well then like I said you're a self rightous idiot . With your attitude you must think that anyone who enjoys watching gun camera footage is sick too .