Knits read: 6 Call function

[Revvin]

I don't give them out because I can't be bothered to

I find that statement truly saddening and a sad indication of where the community is going.

[Tjay]

Originally posted by J_A_B
I don't give them out because I can't be bothered to; I've got other things to worry about than watching somebody else's tail for him.  
J_A_B

Hey guys, if anyone sees J_A_B in the arena, give him a 6 call. Then another, then another...
Just joking. I think.

[Saintaw]

Indeed, sounds like a guy I'd like to hang out with...

[Creamo]

Im with J_A_B. I have the 6 call turned low in the sounds only because in a dogfight furball, I keep getting reminders THERE IS A HUGE GIGANTIC RED ICON BEHIND YOU[/color]. Since they have good intentions, that's ok.

And for the being jumped case(you shouldn't), I like the 6 call.

[Wilbus]

Well Said Widewing, only one problem though, those are sissy planes you're talking about

[MANDOBLE]

Usually, we are so outnumbered in rookland that six calls alone are not enough. we need twelve, nive, three, above and below calls.

In rookland you usually get ten or more six calls messages every time an enemy is at less than 5k of you ...

[straffo]

Take that Saw ...
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and now yer deaf

Si tu t'es foutu dans la merde ... bonne chance et à la prochaine

[J_A_B]

Actually if you plague me with 6 calls I won't care too much anymore as I deleted the .wav for them.   They're worthless IMO.

"If JAB's attitude is that of the new breed of AH players, I think I'll find a new game to play."

Well Funked, that comment seems a bit odd since I've been here (abeit off and on) since AH was in Beta.   You know what?  If you ever see me stuck low and slow in a bunch of enemies--I don't expect help and I won't care one bit as you orbit above and watch me get shot down.   If I ended up in a bad situation, it's my fault and I don't expect someone to bail me out.  Likewise, I'm not going to sacrifice myself to help out a teammate who got himself into a bad situation.

I find it amusing how certain individuals blame their teammates when they get shot down.   Such behavior, IMO is more pathetic than kill-stealing.  


J_A_B

[Manxer]

I've winged with Jab for a few years now and I can honestly say that he seldom if ever requires a six call. If he dosen't get warning of impending doom, he's rather stoic and dosen't get too upset knowing you did what you could to help him out in the present situation. He's a good wingman, and I seldom find myself in trouble because of something he's done.

You may not agree with what he says, but to be honest there are times when I'm tied up in a furball with multiple bog's I obviously know are there and are bombarded with 6 calls. A well placed one is a good thing, too many in obvious situations is horrible. It seems that the ones I need, are never the ones I get.

How a 6 call should be used is up to everyone's own opinion, and Jab is surely allowed his just as everyone else is allowed theirs.

[Ripsnort]

Maybe they should also teach one to have SA. That way, by the time you get that check six call, you already know about that bogie on your 6...how about assigning SA to a keyboard key?

[Saintaw]

Well, Rip, what do ou think about this :
some 20 Knits "Capping(Tm)" a field, and calling for Heavies to blow out the town. You get there, merily start to bomb & strafe ground targets, a couple of high LA7's strolls in, shoots you.

rince & repeat.

No warning from the beloved "Cap(Tm)".

 Yet you thought you were safe, because the field was "Capped(Tm)" ?

PS: was I clear on the "Cap" part ?

[Doberman]

J_A_B's attitude is more representative of those who have been flying for quite some time, not a newbie's.

Everyone has their own agenda which may or may not coincide with your own.

Had a rather heated discussion with RELIC about this last nite in fact.  

No one owes you a 6 call or a bailing out when you're in trouble.  Expecting so is foolish.  And shows both your lack of ability and awareness.  

I give 6 calls when it seems appropriate, when I'm able and when I feel like it.  (Though I typically make my calls on country channel)  And I'll help somebody in trouble following those same qualifications.   Sometimes I'm willing to drop from 15K to help someone getting jacked 6 on 1 at 2K.  Other times I'm not willing to blow the alt.   'Specially when it's just gonna lead to me being the one against 6 at low alt.

I don't expect anything out of anyone else.   I make my own situations and no one else has any obligation to help me outta them.  

I appreciate when someone gives a 6 call or jumps in to clear my tail.  They'll always get a "thx".  But if no one does, I've got no call to squeak about it.   As I've said over & over, expecting anything from anyone else is foolish.

The only exception to this, of course, is if you're flying with a wingman.  Then, their (or your) job is to call 6 & clear tails.  I am pretty religious about this, even when it's just an impromptu wingie flight.

For example, after a somewhat long heated discussion (argument) with RELIC on country channel after he'd complained about getting no calls, we ended up heading towards the same place together.  Jumped into a fight to clear someone and helped each other out a bit with 6 calls & clears.    

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[Revvin]

Same old excuse's from those who don't can't be bothered to offer the most basic principles of team work. You know we are suppossed to fly as a team yeah? I mean if we were not then there would be approx 400 'teams' in prime time in the arena.

Its not about not having SA or expecting a six call. With the best SA in the world you still stand a good chance of getting bounced in an area with alot of planes fighting. Take a look at the history books, take a look at the aces of WW2 and note how many of them were shot down...guess they had poor SA also? it takes a second to press the key and offer the warning to a team mate, is that too much to ask?

[pbirmingham]

Originally posted by Revvin
it takes a second to press the key and offer the warning to a team mate, is that too much to ask?

You mean like this:

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Runny: Check 6 Furious
/ sorry, furious, wrong guy
''''''''
Runny: Check 6 MonZuma
/Sorry mz, trying to ck Revvin
'''''''''''''''''''
SYSTEM: Victory 6 by RookDweeb

Revvin: DOESN'T ANYBODY FRIKKIN CHECK 6?

It takes more than a second if it's crowded, andyou have a difficult time targeting the right person for the warning.

I'm with J_A_B -- it's good to give check-6s, but poor form to complain because you din't get one.

[Doberman]

Originally posted by Revvin
Same old excuse's from those who don't can't be bothered to offer the most basic principles of team work. You know we are suppossed to fly as a team yeah? I mean if we were not then there would be approx 400 'teams' in prime time in the arena.

 

  Nothing in my Aces High manual about "supposed to fly as a team."  

  I fly how I want.  Sometimes that includes helping bail folks out.  Other times it don't.  

  Be thankful when someone does help you.  Don't ever expect it.  

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