P38 Stutter

[Apar]

Not all sailors use CT,

[popeye]

I use the 38 for jabo all the time, and can't say I've noticed anything unusual about it.  I'll pay closer attention next time.

Custom sounds, no CT, VSYNC on.

[Creamo]

I knew the AK's were popsicle's, but CT?

At least HT's time spent to develope CT to demo the game to a Grapevine Kindergarden Class on a field trip to HTC and players 6-12 was useful to someone besides r4massts, so that's cool.

[Dead Man Flying]

Bah!

I fly with CT most of the time.  I challenge anyone to tell me that using manual trim offers some kind of advantage in any situation other than at extremely high speeds or in certain aircraft which exhibit odd CT properties (like the 38).  If I want to manually trim, I'll use the trim wheels on my joystick.  At least those approximate the ease of actual manual trim.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Creamo]

And "beauty is only skin deep" is something ugly people say to make themselves feel better too. Can't see why you want a computer doing most your flying, it's not like this is a commercial aviation sim.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Creamo
And "beauty is only skin deep" is something ugly people say to make themselves feel better too. Can't see why you want a computer doing most your flying, it's not like this is a commercial aviation sim.

 Is that a whiff of elitism I smell?

What I don't want is a pseudo-realistic interpretation of trim that requires more effort than it should realistically be worth.  If I want to bother with it, I'll use the trim wheels on my joystick.  Or I'll do what I did before CT... I'll simply adjust my stick or rudder position to offset extra lift without bothering to manually put myself back into trim.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Nath[BDP]]

hi

I use to use CT all the time, but since I have stopped using it to make AH more interesting. Forgive my asseverative but I owned you just as hard before CT as I did with it, cream-h0. CT doesn't make a difference.

So in closing, I find your little statements implying that using CT somehow makes a person uber in AH and thus beyond your non-CT skillz pretty sad.

DMF would own you either way, with or without CT. As well as 99.9% of AH pilots.

[Creamo]

tweak

[Dead Man Flying]

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[Tac]

Lol, u grannies need to go play bingo

"certain aircraft which exhibit odd CT properties (like the 38). '

?

I use CT on all planes except 38. I just cant trim elevator, aleiron and rudder at the same time. The 38 only needs to have its elevator trimmed, and thats easy with the hat switch.

All planes get a bonus from using manual trim imo, if you have your elevator trimmed to the top, anytime u pull nose up the plane will actually pull nose up faster. Hell if I know why, maybe because the elevator is on the "up" position the moment u stop giving it an input from the joystick vs. the elevator trimmed to the middle receiving a j-stick command to pull nose up? Dunno, I just know its faster for some reason. You can also point nose down and trim elevator fully up, doing nice corckscrew dives and gaining speed.. do that without trimming but instead pulling the nose up with j-stick, you wont gain much E.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Tac
"certain aircraft which exhibit odd CT properties (like the 38). '

?

I use CT on all planes except 38. I just cant trim elevator, aleiron and rudder at the same time. The 38 only needs to have its elevator trimmed, and thats easy with the hat switch.

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If you fly with CT on in the 38, it'll do what I call "hitting the wake" -- or what Nimitz called stuttering.  It's as if it generates lift more quickly than CT can compensate for it, so the nose goes up a bit, then it bounces back down again like hitting a wave if you try to pull a smooth turn.  It's one of those cases where CT really hampers the performance of the plane.

All planes get a bonus from using manual trim imo, if you have your elevator trimmed to the top, anytime u pull nose up the plane will actually pull nose up faster. Hell if I know why, maybe because the elevator is on the "up" position the moment u stop giving it an input from the joystick vs. the elevator trimmed to the middle receiving a j-stick command to pull nose up? Dunno, I just know its faster for some reason. You can also point nose down and trim elevator fully up, doing nice corckscrew dives and gaining speed.. do that without trimming but instead pulling the nose up with j-stick, you wont gain much E.

This is what I meant by "pseudo-realism."  Try doing any of this using the trim wheel on your joystick and it just won't work despite the fact that your joystick trim wheels function more like real trim than the in-game trim does.  The things you're describing, especially the first maneuver, are artifacts of an odd trim implementation.

-- Todd/Leviathn