Author Topic: LA7 (Read 1409 times)

funked · « **Reply #30 on:** February 02, 2001, 07:29:00 PM »

LOL Leo!!!

StSanta · « **Reply #31 on:** February 02, 2001, 07:55:00 PM »

Who is this Von Werrer idiot?

If anyone has some sense of humour to spare, I know a German that really needs it.

He was probably rejected from the LW.

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Torgo · « **Reply #32 on:** February 02, 2001, 08:08:00 PM »

Here's the problem..

I strongly suspect the "cheap" perks may not get used any than the expensive "uber" perks.

People, I think, are going to hoard their perks for ULTIMATE rides like the Tempest. If you take a very much borderline (though personally I really don't think it's that close to "perk" status) plane like the La-7, even with a few perks a sortie I really think people still won't use it at all.

Perking is really a blunt instrument..theoretically, making something a very cheap perk SHOULD cause its arena numbers to decline some..but I think the practical effect is to cause usage of it to collapse. It's hard to "half perk" something.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2001, 09:00:00 PM »

I agree with Torgo. It seems, at times, that perk mania has taken hold of the players. Surely some planes deserve perk status, but not all of them. Yes, the La7 is incredibly fast at sea level... but how about above 15k? 25k? It has weaker armament than the F4U-1C and Typhoon (and what sort of ammo load, incidentally?), and the 109G10 probably climbs as well or better. Adding it to the non-perked planeset also doesn't relegate the La5 to oblivion. Plenty of folks still fly the Spit V instead of the Spit IX.

It'll be a fantastic, tough-nosed addition to the current non-perked planeset. But perk it? Nah.

-- Todd/DMF

RAM · « **Reply #34 on:** February 02, 2001, 09:06:00 PM »

If the La5 is a Fw190A5 mixed with a me109G6 this one is a Fw190A5 mixed with a Me109G10-highly dangerous.

I really hope (I pray) that this thing comes unperked. Because if it does then the dora-9 will too be unperked, by sure.

Glasses · « **Reply #35 on:** February 03, 2001, 12:08:00 AM »

Yup and the D9 will be something like and A8 mixed with a G10 so we'll be kicking some attus in that plane for sure. As to perking the G10 are you nuts the G10 us a squeak to fly sure it climbs like hell but other than that if you're not putting an effort into flying the damned plane you die like a Runt.

I've grown accostumed to fly the 109g2 IT'S ONE IF NOT MY FAVORITE RIDE SINCE THE NEW fm REVISION WHY i HAVE MY REASONS...Sorry about the caps...The 109f4 is also a nice Bird for turn fighting and furballing around fields IMO either way I just hope they don't perk the D9 .

bye

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Spatula · « **Reply #36 on:** February 03, 2001, 12:12:00 AM »

I Dont think it will be much more popular than the yak9. The quaker dweeb-c riders will hate its slow ROF cannons which will never be as effective as the Hispano.
The la-5 & yak cannon takes alot more skill to drop planes than the turbo-laser.

BTW, WTG HTC (wonder what other 3 letter acronyms i can use now).

SwampRat · « **Reply #37 on:** February 03, 2001, 12:31:00 AM »

The LA7 is gonna Ram itself right up alot of non-believers butts...mark my words and reply in 6 months!
Swamp

VikS · « **Reply #38 on:** February 03, 2001, 12:53:00 AM »

La7 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!

looks like all chog and pony drivers already pissed off

MUUHAHAHAHAHAH no escape now

Vik
5th GIAP VVS

Animal · « **Reply #39 on:** February 03, 2001, 10:18:00 AM »

Bring on the damn LA7.

Another easy kill for my twin tailed monster.

Oh and those LA5 guns are badass, I always fear going HO against an LA5

Vermillion · « **Reply #40 on:** February 03, 2001, 10:20:00 AM »

Funked, not just the prototype had 3 cannons.

The La7's from one factory had x3 B-20 cannons, the La7's from the other factory had the traditional x2 ShVak's cannons.

For those that don't know, the B-20 cannon is ballistically identical to the ShVak cannon, in fact they used the same ammunition. The difference was that the B-20 cannon itself weighed much less than the ShVak cannon, allowing the installation of 3 guns for the same weight as the 2 ShVaks.

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Hobodog · « **Reply #41 on:** February 03, 2001, 10:30:00 AM »

A little tidbit

"All aircraft built at the Yaroslavl factory had three, whilst the aircraft built at the Moscow factory had two."

Reffering to the 20 millimeter ShVAK cannons(The newly developed 23mm ShVAK cannons were fitted on late, late war craft, probably ones that only saw service on earstern front).
It could also carry 4 8.2cm rockets and/or 331lbs of bombs.

Zippatuh · « **Reply #42 on:** February 03, 2001, 11:26:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Sancho:

You said it Frenchy, yet another faster plane that turns better. (Image removed from quote.) How was the La7 above 20k?

Stepping out on a limb here Sancho. From the little research I have done the Russians primarily built their aircraft for ground support and troop decimation. Although the La7 comes with WEP it does not have an intake I believe so it is only usable up to 7K – 10K. In short, if you meet this plane low, you’re in trouble. If you meet it at 20K, you have a much better chance but this all depends on what kind of ride you happen to be in.

I’m sure the Russian aircraft buffs will pull me to pieces on this one but it is definitely a low altitude danger.

Zippatuh

leonid · « **Reply #43 on:** February 03, 2001, 11:27:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Zippatuh:
Stepping out on a limb here Sancho. From the little research I have done the Russians primarily built their aircraft for ground support and troop decimation. Although the La7 comes with WEP it does not have an intake I believe so it is only usable up to 7K – 10K. In short, if you meet this plane low, you’re in trouble. If you meet it at 20K, you have a much better chance but this all depends on what kind of ride you happen to be in.

I’m sure the Russian aircraft buffs will pull me to pieces on this one but it is definitely a low altitude danger.

Zippatuh

Zippatuh,
SNAP!! Whoopsy! See ya at the bottom! Actually, you need to do a bit more on VVS research. The Soviets believed in building aircraft for specific purposes, thus Il-2 for ground assault, Pe-2 for tactical bombing, etc. Most VVS fighters were questionable as ground support, since they were primarily designed for an air superiority role. That many fighters were used for ground support in '41, '42, only shows just how desperate they were.

As for the supercharger air intake which was on top of the nose in the La-5FN, it was moved to two intakes at the wing root leading edge on the La-7. You are right that the La-7 will truly be in its element from 10k, down. However, NII VVS testing determined that even at an altitude range of 21-23k the La-7 retained equal vertical maneuverability with a Bf 109G-4.

[This message has been edited by leonid (edited 02-03-2001).]

Zippatuh · « **Reply #44 on:** February 04, 2001, 12:41:00 AM »

Well, I wasn’t pulled apart too bad on that one.

Thanks for clearing that up leonid.

Zippatuh

Author Topic: LA7 (Read 1409 times)

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