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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2002, 06:32:38 PM »
I don't want to comment on these "people".  My anger will control what I say and anger should not be used to to judge people.

Oh, hell.

They're bastards that need to have the crap kicked out of them, at least that's how I feel.

A year or two ago a few teens came across a 5-6 year old girl playing in her front yard with the kittens that her family cat had had 6 weeks ago.  These wastes of skin took the kittens from her and were throwing them against the wall of her house and against the trunk of a tree in the yard while she desparately tried to protect the kittens, yelling and crying at the teens to "Stop killing my kitties!"

The cops got the perps, but I don't recall what the penalty was.

I can't imagine doing something like that to a child.  Can you imagine being the father of the 10 year old boy in loser's story or the 5-6 year old girl in my story?  I'd be absolutely livid and God help them if I got my hands on them.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2002, 09:22:20 PM »
Makes me sick. I'd hunt the f*#&ers down with some other pet owning friends and god knows, I'd dream up something more inventive and instructive than a beating. It may sound slightly wierd, but I sometimes daydream about catching some lowlife in the act and dispensing a little civilian justice.

The world needs more vigilantes, people would think twice about doing this kinda sh*t if they suspected the guy across the street would walk over and beat the living crap outta them.

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2002, 09:36:24 PM »
You can't kill 'em. A dog's life.. or any animal's life is never going to equate to a human life.

Although I do sympathize with the spirit.

This is a case of "theft". They have stolen many years of fun, learning and pleasure from the kid who owned the dog. (Yeah, you can learn a lot from dogs if you pay attention when they are teaching you.)

So, I'd steal some years from the killers. Time in the slammer for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2002, 10:25:55 PM »
Eeww... I have a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Just not something I can understand someone doing to anyone or anything.

Toad, that sounds appropriate. Let's lock 'em up for a few. Though with the way things are so over-crowded now, who knows what'll happen. Grrr....

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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2002, 02:02:17 AM »
This is exactly how nazi germany started.


on a more serious side...
I think 10 yrs in a good 'ol fashion prison dungeon is a fitting punishment. There they can ponder the consequences of their actions.

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I dont own a dog, and I never have. Heck, come to think about it, the only pet I've ever had was a canary bird who escaped after 3 weeks (and probably met a gruesome fate, considering the winters here in Sweden). So I guess I cant really understand exactly how crushed that little kid must feel right now.

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It is the complete lack of empathy from the offenders that scare me. You have to be a seriously disturbed person if you can walk up to a little kid, steal his dog, and torture the poor animal to death before that kids eyes. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I feel Grunherz is on the right track here. We really dont want people like that roaming our neighbourhoods do we?
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2002, 03:10:55 AM »
Stuff like this makes me sick... much the same as everyone else who has posted here... yes I own a dog, a beautiful lab, but even if I didnt, the impression left on the child walking the dog would still be enough to influence me to take violent action to discipline the children responsible.  Had it been my daughter/son (dont have one... yet) I think I would have gotten out a shotgun and took off running down the street.  These three children, or in the event it was a single child with 2 followers, are directly to blame - call them psychopaths if you like, and the parents are indirectly to blame.  Im willing to bet that the father spends his days watching NASCAR and drinking Coors Light in his "wife beater" T shirt while the mother cleans inbetween beatings.  The point was made that children have been doing sick toejam for 2000 years, and will continue to do so - but when I was a kid I never did ANYTHING even REMOTELY approaching this kind of psychotic behavior - of course everyone had that one kid in the group that would put M80's into fish's mouths, but Jesus.. hanging a fediddleing dog infront of it's child owner?  Sorry to say that the kids will probably not get anything more than a fine and probation, but I would get some sort of morbid satisfaction out of watching the 10 year old string the 3 kids up on the same damned piece of playground equiptment the dog was hanged from.

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2002, 04:50:28 AM »
Deeply disturbing?  How about when you find out it was all a LIE!

http://www2.alberta.com/news/fs.cfm?source_id=CP&id=1062639


EDMONTON (CP) - A 10-year-old boy who had claimed a group of teenagers hanged his
dog at a playground recanted the story Monday. RCMP in St. Albert, a bedroom community
north of Edmonton, issued a news release saying the dog "in fact died as a result of
accidentally falling from the play structure while the leash was still on."

Events.

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2002, 09:24:38 AM »
I feel sorry for the kid.  He watched his dog die as it hung there.  Having to lie about it is another issue.  He must have felt terrible and was scared to tell the truth.

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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2002, 09:37:20 AM »
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The world needs more vigilantes, people would think twice about doing this kinda sh*t if they suspected the guy across the street would walk over and beat the living crap outta them.


I think the less Vigilante justice the better, with extreme penalties for those who decide to take the law into their own hands. Vigilanties were criminals when they were wearing white hoods next to the lynchin' tree, and they are criminials today even if they do happen to get the "right" people.

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2002, 09:52:37 AM »
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I feel sorry for the kid.  He watched his dog die as it hung there.  Having to lie about it is another issue.  He must have felt terrible and was scared to tell the truth.


Agree 100%, not only does he have to live with the dog on his conscience, but now has to live with lying about it.  Poor kid.

One thing I've reminded my kids over and over again, by telling the truthhas far less consequences than not telling the truth.

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2002, 10:02:58 AM »
just heard that the kid made up the story...that really blows.

however stuff like this does happen, and sharing our thoughts on situations like this (even ones that become hypothetical) shows a concensus on what we view as "justice."

oh well, i was going to post more....but to talk about imaginary offenders seems rather....akward.


btw i had no intention of misleading the AH community when i started this post.. i was just going on the information i read in papers, heard on the radio etc...
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2002, 11:25:37 AM »
I wanted to wait a few days before replying to this thread.  I suspected the boy might be lying, but felt it would be bad form to say as much until the police figured a few things out.

What really struck me is how many people were so willing to sit back and accept it as truth... and the reactions themselves.  Read through this thread and ask yourself how it is possible to imprison the wrong person.

So much time is spent focussing rage and hate that common sense often takes a back seat.  Sometimes its important to remember what it was like when you were a kid... how big the issues seemed... what you'd do to get out of trouble.  Use that as a filter in situations like this.

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2002, 12:14:16 PM »
I say we beat DejaVu and string him up.  Heathen.


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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2002, 12:58:29 PM »
That's why we have detectives and courts and all that legal stuff.

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I'm GLAD it turned out to be untrue.
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2002, 01:41:00 PM »
Ick.

Well, my story actually did happen.  With adult witnesses.
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