Author Topic: new vid card prob (freeze) (Read 510 times)

AWRass · « **on:** January 31, 2002, 09:35:25 PM »

I installed a new ge force 2 ti 64 meg vid card and all went well with the installaton but now in AH on occasion my system freezes up. Typically it happens when I am pressing a button like to get the roster up. Is there a setting in there that doesn't agree with Aces High?
Rass

AWRass · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2002, 07:10:34 AM »

I found this in the AH help FAQ and turning the AGP 4X off seemed to have helped but it is not what I wanted to do.

"I have a GeForce video card and my computer locks up after playing AH for a short time OR My computer intermittently locks up when playing AH and I have a motherboard using an AMD or VIA chipset.
If you have an Athlon processor this problem is due to a flaw in AMD's 750 "Irongate" North Bridge chipset. There is currently no fix available, but there is a workaround. First of all, download the newest AGP and IRQ routing drivers from your motherboard supplier. Next, make sure you select AGP 1x as your AGP bus speed."

Lephturn · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2002, 06:51:35 AM »

What version of the drivers are you running? Make sure the ones you are trying are no later than 21.81, and are WHQL certified.

http://www.otakupc.com/downloads/nvidia_drivers.shtml

I know the 23.11's say they are WHQL certified as well, but lots of folks have had problems with them.

Also, try setting your AGP apeture size in BIOS to 128 and see if that helps.

When flying AH, press CNTRL-C and ensure that "ground clutter" is turned off.

Make sure you have the most up-to-date drivers for that mainboard chipset, and check Windows Update for any patches/updates as well.

AWRass · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2002, 07:19:58 AM »

RGR I am running the 21.81 drivers also updated my via 4 and 1 driver. Also already set agp apreture. I tried the 23.11 driver and it actually gave me a marginally better 3d mark score but was far too jumpy in the game. That agp 4x off setting in bios seemed to have fixed the prob. for now. The 2181 runs far better in AH that the other 3 I have tried. I think I need to erase all the nvidia drivers and reinstall the 21.81 clean and try upping that bios settinig back to 4x and see what happens.

also I am current on windows updates.

thanks for the info...
Rass

FOGOLD · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2002, 04:29:44 AM »

Ive noticed stutters lately, especially with stall horn going. Last night I had a big stutter ( Though no stall horn this time!). I thot PC had frozen, then suddenly off we went again fine. Most of the time its great, 75FPS all the time. Have got latest Audigy drivers. Theres definitley something about that stalll horn.

1800xp
512ddr
geforce3 ti500 21.81dr
agp 2x
Audigy Player

bloom25 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2002, 02:35:51 PM »

I wrote that section of the FAQ almost 2 years ago. It's out of date now.

Those chipsets I mentioned were for the very first Athlons in September of 1999.

Dropping the AGP speed to 1x might help, but that indicates an out of date VIA driver version and/or ram and/or heat issues.

AWRass · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2002, 03:34:33 PM »

Since my last post I have found a better workaround. What I was doing before was agp apurature at 64 and set to 1x in bios. I found that the 23.11 driver seemed to make my system happy in AH even though the newer ones posted better 3d mark scores. I was able to go back to agp4x and up the apurature to 128 and get hours of no freeze playtime. But I think the best thing I did was to completely wipe out all video drivers let windows install the generic driver then install the NVidia driver. I might have has some sort of conflict there. I am tempted to load the new drivers now but I hate to fix what ain't broke

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On another note I don't know about the rest of you, but being that I built this puter myself I am constantly in a state up upgrade. Over the past few months I have added another 256 ram. The GForce card. and now a 1.4 gig processor. The next step is a new mobo and processor and pass this one along to my son.
RASSOUT

K West · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2002, 05:05:06 PM »

Make sure your vid card is not sharing an IRQ with anything too!

Westy

AWRass · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2002, 06:07:50 PM »

Below is copied form my system summary. It looks like it is sharing... What should I do?

IRQ 0   System timer   OK
IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard   OK
IRQ 2   Programmable interrupt controller   OK
IRQ 3   Communications Port (COM2)   OK
IRQ 4   Communications Port (COM1)   OK
IRQ 6   Standard Floppy Disk Controller   OK
IRQ 7   Printer Port (LPT1)   OK
IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK
IRQ 9   SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus   OK
IRQ 10   NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti   OK
IRQ 10   ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering   OK
IRQ 11   VIA AC'97 Audio Controller (WDM)   OK
IRQ 11   Realtek RTL8029(AS) PCI Ethernet Adapter   OK
IRQ 11   ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering   OK
IRQ 12   VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller   OK
IRQ 12   VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller   OK
IRQ 12   WDM Communication Device   OK
IRQ 12   ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering   OK
IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK
IRQ 14   VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller   OK
IRQ 14   Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)   OK
IRQ 15   VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller   OK
IRQ 15   Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)   OK

K West · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2002, 09:12:31 AM »

Actually it appears you're ok. Your vidcard is not sharing as "IRQ steering" isn't another piece of hardware but a system "thing". It should be like that.

IRQ 12 however is sharing though. Looks like you have cablde/dsl? Your USB system is sharing the irq with that comm device. If you do not use any USB devices then you may fine but if you are (my USB was sharing an IRQ with my ethernet card. My connects improved after I moved the ethernet card in my PC to another PCI slot)

What you can do to free up a couple of IRQ's is disable any printer or com ports that you are not using in your bios. Also find out how the IRQ's are apportioned on your MB (some slots have dedicated IRQ's and some will always share with other PCI devices. Quite often the AGP slot and the 1st PCI (closest to it) share an IRQ. See if you can move your com device to a free PCI slot that will help you get it on it's own IRQ.

Westy

SpyCat · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2002, 10:55:03 AM »

When you insatalled the 4-1 drivers the MS "APG to CPU" driver was overwritten. If you manually change it back to the MS driver the freeze/lock-ups will go away.

Turn off "fast writes" in the Bios also, your MB/VC probably do not support this fuction.

Hope this helps.

SpyCat

AWRass · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2002, 03:18:50 PM »

I can change fast write in bios, but have no idea how to select which driver a device uses.

SpyCat · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2002, 03:28:41 PM »

my computer/propties/device manager/system devices/apg to cpu controller/propties/update driver/select MS driver.

Before you change driver is your system still freezing up after you change bios?