Author Topic: Canadians finish second despite a "perfect" program (Read 1857 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:04:47 AM »

5.9's for his artistic expression.

You answered it yourself. Not for technical performance.

skernsk · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:07:50 AM »

Boroda,

I had no idea that the skater Tanya was all buggered up. I salute the comeback she has made.

Dope testing. It's part of the game whether you have a hole in your head or not. all atheletes know the rules here.

As for the gold going to the Russians. Well there is no doubt they were not the best that day.....

Am0n · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:09:47 AM »

I cant believe i just read this post, let alone responding to it.

Who cares? This type of discusion is for a female only BBS.. dont use the checking out hot chicks scape-goat, you gotta PC and a multi-billion dollar industry of pornography at your finger tips! have at it

sad, i leave for a few weeks and come back to find out that you all have become peter-puffers!!

fd ski · « **Reply #48 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:27:04 AM »

thanks for posting that info boroda, i haven't heard a word about it here....

Just something about her doping, said in most suggestive fashion.

Lynx, i was just pointing out the idiocy of the press statements suggesting that only part of judges was partial.

And idea that "artistic expression" can be "graded" is as moronic as they get. Anyone here thinks Picasso was artistic ?

Rebel · « **Reply #49 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:33:37 AM »

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Did your media show that Anton was deliberately hit and barely escaped trauma at the warm-up? You call it fair play?

Oh give me a friggin break!

This is coming from the same media who just simply *neglected to mention* that little *glitch* at Chernobyl. Families in the affected area were simply told that "There was a small technical problem. Just keep your windows closed, and wash your hands more often."

Russian media never ceases to amaze me, man.

skernsk · « **Reply #50 on:** February 13, 2002, 11:55:18 AM »

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And idea that "artistic expression" can be "graded" is as moronic as they get. Anyone here thinks Picasso was artistic ?

ROFL! That pretty much sums it up.

Boroda · « **Reply #51 on:** February 13, 2002, 12:00:04 PM »

Rebel, the episode was shown on the TV. It's a fact. He was hit while performing a sertain figure with Tanya, not just skating around.

Please, shut up about Russian media. It's not Soviet media, it's in some ways much more free then your "democratic press" all bought by corporations and financial groups.

So far it's your media that didn't say a single word about Tanya's trauma and didn't show the above mentioned episode. Not to say about all the lies about life in USSR and Russia that they feed you for the last 50 years.

Next time you'll face radiational threat - feel free to open all windows and never wash hands. What do you think they were supposed to say?

Sorry, I only wished to show you how this episode is shown here, but as usual there's another comic-book popular history reader who always knows better.

midnight Target · « **Reply #52 on:** February 13, 2002, 12:44:25 PM »

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It was a sensational conclusion to a competition that also included a stunning, high-speed clash between Sale and Sikharulidze toward the end of the final group's six-minute warm-up.

Sale, 24, collided heavily with Sikharulidze as she stepped forward into a solo jump.

With the wind knocked out of her, Sale stayed down on one knee for some time as Sikharulidze and Pelletier hovered over her.

Finally Sale stood up, took a deep breath, and skated to the barrier under her own steam.

``Adrenaline is an amazing thing,'' said the Canadian, explaining how she managed to perform 15 minutes later. ``I had pain in my stomach and my arm was a little numb but I said to Dave 'This is for us. I'm not giving up.'

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Boroda wrote: Did your media show that Anton was deliberately hit and barely escaped trauma at the warm-up? You call it fair play?

Did your media cover the 2 men standing over the little Canadian girl? Do you think those nasty Canadians sent Sale' in as some kind of human cruise missle to take Anton out? All media has some bias Boroda, but yours really stretched the truth about that collision.

miko2d · « **Reply #53 on:** February 13, 2002, 12:59:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Rebel, the episode was shown on the TV. It's a fact. He was hit while performing a sertain figure with Tanya, not just skating around.

Of course it was mentioned. IIRC "canadian skater showed brilliant performance despite having wind knocked out of ?her? because of collision with russian skater".

Next time you'll face radiational threat - feel free to open all windows and never wash hands. What do you think they were supposed to say?
They were supposed to evacuate the nearby areas when they first heard of a problem, like they did with Three-mile Island. Then I would not have paraded in Minsk on the 1st of May, 1986.

But why the heck do you try to defend the old communist media anyway? It's not like the country is still being run by communists.

Face it, guys - the Olympics are boring. What can the media not covering the Olympics directly (NBC) say about it? Recite the scores? A tasty morcel like this had to be invented if it did not happen - no reflection on the countries actually involved.

miko

Fatty · « **Reply #54 on:** February 13, 2002, 01:07:48 PM »

The best thing that could come out of this entire situation is an excuse to toss out all judged events. Give em some kind of fiery death on ice gauntlet to race through, then I'll watch.

Boroda · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2002, 01:19:56 PM »

Midnight, one question: did you see it on the TV yourself?

Yes, every media has it's bias. And it was the point of my first post: I don't like the way Russian media covers Olympics.

Old Soviet joke: Brezhnev and Reagan had a race for 100m. Pravda wrote: "General Secretary finished second, while American president was the last but one."

Miko, I do not protect commie media. I only want to say that Wesern media isn't better. And again: there is no such thing as a free press. Things have really changed here in the past 12 years, so the picture you try so hard to believe in is outdated.

BTW, do you really think they should have evacuated Minsk?! Where!? To the Urals? Chernobyl stunned us because it was the first time Sovie press talked about the disaster free. I mean that coverage was unbelievable according to Soviet standards.

Rebel · « **Reply #56 on:** February 13, 2002, 01:27:28 PM »

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Rebel, the episode was shown on the TV. It's a fact. He was hit while performing a sertain figure with Tanya, not just skating around.

Wrong again. It's called warm-ups. There were 2 other pairs skating with them- on an ice rink that normally supports only 1 program.

Sale was setting up for a double toe loop, looking at her partner.

She never even saw the guy.

Right-o, a little candian chick beat the crap out of your poor widdle Russian. Gimmie a break. If that was the case- an intentional collision- do you really think he'd immediately skate over to help her up?

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Please, shut up about Russian media. It's not Soviet media, it's in some ways much more free then your "democratic press" all bought by corporations and financial groups

Not even goin' there.
Every other country in the world reported it as an "accidental collision during warmups".
Russia chose to write it up as "Russian skater attacked during warm up!"

Are y'all still stuck on Tonya Harding, or somethin?

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So far it's your media that didn't say a single word about Tanya's trauma and didn't show the above mentioned episode. Not to say about all the lies about life in USSR and Russia that they feed you for the last 50 years.

Ignorance MUST be bliss. Let me clue ya in on a little secret.

National Geographic did a HUGE investigative report on Russia- focussing on life before and after the fall of the Communist party. I can't count the number of specials, reports, and even personal stories I've heard.

As a matter of fact, they DID show the collision, and they DID make a HUGE mention of Tanya's blow to the head. NBC even did a special before the skate on her. 20 minutes non-stop of how she came through.

Did Russia forget to mention the Uzbekistan girl's broken foot?

Just curious.

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Next time you'll face radiational threat - feel free to open all windows and never wash hands. What do you think they were supposed to say?

I can't even BELIEVE you're defending this. Time to throw the hammer down-

When a nuclear reactor goes kablooie, you evactuate every nearby villiage, town, and city, until you can contain and control the radiation levels. Not to mention destroy all crops affected. Livestock too, but only after extensive tests. Strawberries were the size of apples. Apples were the size of cantelopes. That musta been cool, hehehe!

Families only found out a friggin MONTH after the thing blew that there was even a 'small technical problem'.

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Sorry, I only wished to show you how this episode is shown here, but as usual there's another comic-book popular history reader who always knows better.

First off, I didn't say I knew how it was being presented in Russia. I'm just saying it's offensive how they're presenting it.

FYI, compadre- my info comes mostly from Russians who immigrated, people who lived there.

If you call the testimony of your former countrymen/women comic-book history, that's your call.

FWIW, life has been really improving in Russia, I guess. Just looked up a few things, and it seems like Internet access if growing, foriegn food restaraunts are starting up, and people are enjoying themselves a lot more.

Can't wait till ya get to the point of free enterprise. Russia will return to superpower status, mark my words. But only after the corruption ends. That's the only thing that's holdin her back.

Boroda · « **Reply #57 on:** February 13, 2002, 02:01:33 PM »

Gimmie a break. If that was the case- an intentional collision- do you really think he'd immediately skate over to help her up?

Well, he's a man, and he's a Georgian. Do you really think he could even think about NOT helping her up!?

Every other country in the world reported it as an "accidental collision during warmups". Russia chose to write it up as "Russian skater attacked during warm up!"

Well, noone said exactly that on TV. But after all this talks about Canadians being "better" (that is subjective) this episode looks more then strange. People here are really angry that someone AGAIN talks that our Champions should lose their medals. I already mentioned Canada Cup 1981.

National Geographic did a HUGE investigative report on Russia- focussing on life before and after the fall of the Communist party. I can't count the number of specials, reports, and even personal stories I've heard.

Interesting. Is anything from that report on the Web? What I see on Euronews and on the Web will give you a... hmmm... strange and biased view on the situation here.

When a nuclear reactor goes kablooie, you evactuate every nearby villiage, town, and city, until you can contain and control the radiation levels. Not to mention destroy all crops affected. Livestock too, but only after extensive tests. Strawberries were the size of apples. Apples were the size of cantelopes. That musta been cool, hehehe!

I know this a little better. Our former department here in Biochemical Physics Institute works on small radiation exposure, and all Chernobyl material is being analyzed.

Families only found out a friggin MONTH after the thing blew that there was even a 'small technical problem'.

It's not true.

Can't wait till ya get to the point of free enterprise. Russia will return to superpower status, mark my words. But only after the corruption ends. That's the only thing that's holdin her back.

It's mostly right, but not completely. Things are much more complicated. Corruption isn't the only problem. IMO - people understand "free enterprise", as they always did, even in Soviet times, but the problem is that bosses should simply let them work. (hehe, and last phrase is another incomplete description, things are too twisted to explain).

funkedup · « **Reply #58 on:** February 13, 2002, 02:07:03 PM »

The real issue is why the hell is this considered a sport and why is it part of the Olympics. Real sports don't have judges or style points. This is as much a sport as exotic dancing. We don't give the dancers medals or points, we stuff dollars in their underwear. If they changed all this ice prancing crap to all female and all nude, I might watch.

-dead- · « **Reply #59 on:** February 13, 2002, 02:54:18 PM »

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And idea that "artistic expression" can be "graded" is as moronic as they get. Anyone here thinks Picasso was artistic ?

Hell yeah! Picasso rocks! Head on down to the Prado in Madrid & see all his preliminary sketches as well as the finished product, Guernica. Then you can really appreciate what he was up to.
As a useful aside:
Picasso was once accosted on a train by a stranger who recognized him. The stranger complained: Why couldn't he draw pictures of people the way they actually were? Why did he have to distort the way people looked? Picasso then asked the man to show him pictures of his family. After gazing at the snapshot, Picasso asked, "Wow, is your wife really that small and flat?“