Author Topic: german bomber (Read 1052 times)

bigUC · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2002, 01:28:15 PM »

He 177 !!!

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2002, 02:08:57 PM »

Vermillion Ju-188 was a medium bomber, He-177 was a really heavy bomber and faster than Ju-188.

Karnak · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2002, 02:41:37 PM »

MANDOBLE,

The Ju188A-1 is faster than any of the numbers I've seen for the He177. Ju188A-1 could do 325mph, the He177A-5 is listed at 295mph or 305mph in my books.

The intrim Ju188E series might have been slower, but those were just a stop gap until the intended engines were available and production of the Ju188A series could begin.

Armament wise the He177 is marginally better than the Ju188.

Looks wise the Ju188 blows the He177 away. In fact the Ju188 is quite possibly the best looking bomber of WWII, at least IMHO.

Ju188 data
He177 data

I do think that the He177 would replace the B-17G as the most common bomber in the AH MA though. It carries nearly the load of a Lanc while having nearly the defensive firepower of the B-17G and is faster than either.

The Ju188A-1's speed, bombload (3,000kg {6,614lbs}) and armament would certainly make it popular as well, though not as popular as the B-17G.

I know that I would use the Ju188 far more often than I would use the He177.

I think that either would be nice additions to the planeset. Personally I would prefer to see the Ju188A-1 and Tu-2S added rather than the He177A-5.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2002, 02:47:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
MANDOBLE,

Armament wise the He177 is marginally better than the Ju188.

Looks wise the Ju188 blows the He177 away. In fact the Ju188 is quite possibly the best looking bomber of WWII, at least IMHO.

I disagree, I think the He177 is one of the coolest looking bombers, but I guess its just a matter of taste.

Although they have similar defensive armament, I think the placement of the guns on the He177 will make it more survivable.

Nath[BDP] · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2002, 03:02:56 PM »

He-177 to AH.

Perked though, don't want all the newbies flocking to it.

Staga · « **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2002, 04:31:54 PM »

Ain't it beautiful

SELECTOR · « **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2002, 04:38:01 PM »

AH JU88:D

Karnak · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2002, 04:57:12 PM »

Staga,

The He177 looks "neat" in much the same way as French bombers look "neat".

Kratzer · « **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2002, 05:22:14 PM »

Is that WBIII, Staga?

Wotan · « **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2002, 05:36:55 PM »

thats csf2 wb3 has same ju88 we have plus ju87 as lw bombers

Staga · « **Reply #25 on:** February 15, 2002, 06:00:36 PM »

Nope, That one is modified for FS2002.

Karnak in fact some French bombers are "neat". Well at least one of them

Wilbus · « **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2002, 07:45:39 PM »

HE 177 blows the JU188 away bomber role wise, slower speed but can carry more then 13k lbs, it's got a heavy defencive armement with 20mm included, not to mention the ability for guided missiles (wich I doubt we'd get in AH, atleast right away).

Bring the HE177 to AH UNPERKED!

HoHun · « **Reply #27 on:** February 15, 2002, 10:35:34 PM »

Hi everyone,

there's yet another Luftwaffe bomber with a different set of capabilities: The Junkers Ju 88S, a dedicated "Schnellbomber" ('fast bomber'). It lacked the ventral tub, and armament was reduced to a single MG131, but it had GM-1 injection and a top speed of 612 km/h (380 mph).

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Wilbus · « **Reply #28 on:** February 16, 2002, 03:56:10 AM »

In that case I would bet for a Me410 instead I think, schnell bomber, 2x13mm or 2x20mm armement. Capeble of more then bombing aswell.

Just my thoughts tho.

HoHun · « **Reply #29 on:** February 16, 2002, 08:33:18 AM »

Hi Wilbus,

I think the Messerschmitt Me 410 is more of an attack aircraft than of a bomber. It's maximum bomb capacity seems to have been 2 x 500 kg + 4 x 50 kg, while the Junkers Ju 88S could for example carry 2 x 1800 kg, 2 x 1000 kg or 4 x 500 kg.

I'm not sure whether the Me 410 "bombers" had a bomb sight for horizontal bombing - if not, it certainly was not equal to the Ju 88S.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)