Farewell, AcesHigh

[Creamo]

Yup, musta been the fake love poems, candy, and it didn't "hurt alot" short and sweet during love makin.

He's sneaky, what a toejam.

[hazed-]

sorry to see anyone leave but I cant understand why anyone would think hes a drone when HTC adds 2 or 3 bombers to your flight!!??? YOU ARE A DRONE WHEN ALONE.

whats the most unrealistic thing in AH? lone bombers/bomb accuracy/bomb damage. They didnt send these  bomber guys out in single aircraft because a single fighter in real life could carve them up. The answer in AH is to organise missions with as many bomber pilots as you can persuade to enter.Often you will only get 2 or 3 pilots in and you would be vulnerable to all the furball heads.With 2-3 bombers for each pilot you now have up to 9 bombers in the flight!! kfstone you love buffs but you DONT want this??? you gotta be crazy.
Hell if htc gave us 20 bombers per player THAT would be a HOOT!!
make the bombs as innaccurate as they were(as in they could miss by half a damn mile!) make the buffs really durable, tone down the lethality of buff guns to a more realistic level and start CARPET BOMBING

fighters attacking would REALLY have fun shooting down bombers.It might take longer or more attacks, it might expend almost all of your ammo but at least 5 or 6 hits of 50 cals from 1.4k wont destroy a wing! you as a fighter will make slashing passes blowing bits off all over the place, you will get hit but it wont be the end of the fight for either of you!
I cant understand why this hasnt been done! LONGER fights,More time to learn how to attack, less frustration at the guns,buff pilots get to actually kill fighters with a gun that has no adjustments , and therefore NO MOANING about long range super shooting.

WW2ol is where you are going to get your bomber kicks? I like WW2ol bombers but its hardly a user friendly bombing system! I cant drop more than a couple from bombardier position without having t switch back to pilot to re-position the aircraft.I think WW2ol has one of the worst bomber set ups ive seen in any sim.
It seems they expect you to be in 3 positions at once, flying bombing and gunning, but if you go gunner the plane just starts to drift without auto pilot control.Now that really IS annoying.

ah well GL kfstone, but i think you are judging HTC too soon.We've all done it and been pleasently suprised at what they produce for us.Give them a chance to show us what they think will improve matters before you condemn it.

[kfsone]

On the very unlikely off-chance that you aren't trolling...

I never said I played buffs head 2 head. I said I am a buffer type.  But I gave up on flying buffs in the main arena not because doing it well was hard, but because expending the effort to do it well generally left players feeling unrewarded resulting in them rapidly losing interest in the hassle.

[Wotan]

lazs is job is done here then...........

maybe he can get the rest of the fluffers to feel that very same way.................

[Creamo]

No  one cares. Geezus.

[ZeroPing]

Large buff missions are quite fun, When you get at least 7 or 8 lancs with escorts thats a h00t! but i dont think that many people have the time to do all of that. A few squads can get mabye 3 or 4 buffs up but never like 10 or 20.... I would LOVE to see that all in formation flying 25K with escorts. But that wont happen any time soon. I fly buffs alot and I don't think buffers should whine and cry about how cheap they are and stuff. Only way (3/4 of the time) i can get killed in a buff is if i have more then 1 guy on me.. then i know im dead and i kill the one that i can and go down with him... But IMHO buffers shouldnt whine.
BTW i didnt read all of the post's i dont have time


Peace

[Creamo]

Again, Lazs; it's good to see you are still doing your bit to drive people away from the game.

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[WBHoncho]

To any of you unhappy folks...

Try Warbirds.

When you come back we will forget all of this.

[Torgo]

If there were any WWII recorded 4-kill B-17 sorties the kills were likely bogus.

B-17 and B-24 kills were among the most inflated kill stats of WWII. USAAF pretty much eliminated any review or investigation or confirmation requirements for buff kills, to keep morale up when the buff losses were enormous.  You claimed a kill, and you got it.

If a lone 190 attacks a box of Buffs, and 14 different gunners in 7 different Buffs shot at it, and it blows up...guess how many kills were recorded? 14.

If the B-17 kills were accurate then the B-17s were destroying the entire Luftwaffe every few weeks.  In fighter combat, when comparing the records of both sides after the war, even for countries careful about claims it was routine for there to be 2x overclaiming....but comparing buff claims to LW losses, there's no comparison...ridiculously inflated.

Very few LW fighters were actually shot down by the buffs....overwhelming majority were shot down by escort.

As long as you avoided the slow walk-up behind, hitting a fighter was next to impossible. The guns served a purpose in preventing the 6 'o clock attack, but they weren't actually shooting people down.

[akak]

Originally posted by Revvin

 WW2OL has a more historically accurate norden system but I still feel the rest of the game has a lot of fixing needed which is a shame. Have fun wherever you go and maybe I'll be fortunate enough to wing up with you once again

How can WW2OL have a more accurate Norden  bombsight, especially since they don't have any U.S. buffs in the game.  They might have Sperry bombsight on some of the allied planes in that crappy sim, but definitly not a Norden.


Ack-Ack

[loser]

so torgo, what else you got up in there that you can pull out for us?