Just for kicks i did some tests of the p38 with hizakite and it seems the damage model is pretty accurate in terms of where i hit on my fm to what damage it causes on his fm.but i still question the DM as we had some strange results from single shots.
first i flew about 200 yards on his 6oc (me 109 hiza p38) and tried to fire 1 round at a time of the 20mm at his tail. I fired 5 rounds, saw 4 flashes and the tail broke away.Hiza said he got 3 hits his fm 2 heavy hit sounds and 1 normal hit(?this was a bit puzzling, 20mm should make the same sound?)
(so is it net lag/packet loss that caused 1 hit not to register hiza's end?[hiz saw 3 i saw 4], and where did my 5th bullet go on my fm?[only saw 4 hit sprites but fired 5)
the tail in this case took 3 or 4x 20mm to break away.
realising flying would take forever we decided to straffe each other as one sat on the runway. This is where we started to see excellent damage modelling and then some very strange modeling.we set up passes in 109 again trying to fire 1 round each pass.Overall id say 90% of the hits were fairly accurate in terms of where i saw hits to where hiza said the damage occoured which was good, just to clear somthing up , where is the radiator on the p38? because on several passes i aimed at the rear tail spars seeing hits and hiza said he lost radiator.If its located behind the wing nacell in the tail spar then great, if not why did this happen?
hiza also (once) straffed with 1 shot from my 7oc.He saw hit on left wing root and get this: heres a list of the damage it caused hehe
left engine,left aileron,left flap,left gear,main fuel,aux fuel,pilot wounded.
now i know this sort of disproves what Ive claimed previously but this amount of damage from 1 round seemed rediculous.How can 1 round of 20mm hitting the left wing almost destroy it but 3 or 4 hits on the tail are needed to damage it?(each fired shot was very close range in order to assure a hit <300 yards)
all these flights probably took almost an hour and were far from accurate tests.We got wild results, sometimes single hits caused massive damage sometimes like the tail hits they caused no damage.Is this packet loss? or something else?
basically we were both fairly bored after this time and flying from base to base was tedious to say the least especially as we both died a few times from collisions on one players Fm but not on the other and had to re-up while the other waited patiently on the runway.
Tests were done in the DA as the TA has reduced lethality so there was no chance to both launch at the same base and make tests a lot easier(perhaps a test arena would be a good addition?)
so in conclusion. results were ranging from good modeling to crazy effects from one hit to another, I think this sort of testing, the best any customer can do were hardly accurate or scientific which is what hooligan seems to be demanding.They took considerable time which personally id rather be playing in MA/CT.
I dont think this sort of testing is really a paying customers responsibility and from what i saw sometimes i seemed to be getting satifactory results while other times got nothing or excessive results.
again i ask how is the damage model calculated? Im no wiser now than i was before, only im more willing to accept packet loss as the cause of the lack of damage we sometimes see in MA or CT. But im still VERY suspicious that the DM for the P38 has something strange going on and might deserve review by HTC.
can someone else do tests for all the other planes?
ok I've done as much as im prepared to do.Im none the wiser about the damage model, the way penetration is calculated(as in do the bullets pass thru and continue to be calculated? this i suppose could explain the devastating effect 1 minute and the almost non existant damage the next).I must admit im beginning to think it has a lot more to do with net issues etc than id thought before but this doesnt explain why it doesnt seem to happen when hitting most other aircraft(f6f,la7 etc not included here
) .All ive managed to do is give myself even more questions !!
ahhhhh btw im far from dishonest hooligan and i find your interpretation insulting but hey who gives a toejam, you're a anal retentive who enjoys the arguement more than the subject of it, much like laz and several others you just drop a subtle(sometimes not so subtle) insult in and wait for the pot to stir itself.what a child.
ahhh what the hell..........F**K OFF HOOLIGAN
