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Offline fdiron

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« on: March 04, 2002, 04:27:50 AM »
I saw the movie 'We Were Soldiers' sunday at the movie theatre.  It is based on the book 'We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'.  The movie depicts the battle of the Ia Drang Valley in 1965.  For the most part the movie was excellent and even more exciting to watch than BlackHawk Down.

The only thing that I didnt really like about the movie was the very slight American bias.  The reason I say the movie was a bit biased is because it left out a few things from the battle

(1) I have read in Col. David Hackworth's book that some Americans at the Battle of the Ia Drang Valley were killed while they tried to clean their M16s in the middle of a firefight (their m16s had jammed).  Yet in the movie none of this is depicted.  In fact, not a single M16 even jams (and there is ALOT of fully automicac firing).

(2)  I watched a documentary on the Ia Drang valley on TLC a while back.  It noted how a command decision to have a platoon march from LZ X-ray to another LZ 2 miles away caused the platoon to get ambushed.  This was not depicted in the movie either.

Overall this movie was excellent.  I can understand the few liberties that the director took in making this film.  Afterall, if this movie was a 100% portrayal of the battle, it would last 3 days and be horribly boring to watch.  On the History Channels 'History or Hollywood', most of the veterans of the Ia Drang Valley battle agreed that this movie was 80% History, 20% hollywood.  Not bad.

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2002, 07:11:48 AM »
I  saw it and also liked it.

Are you sure about the patrol not being covered?

I don't want to give away the movie but I thought it WAS covered some what.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2002, 09:49:59 AM »
I read and really enjoyed the book years ago.. .think it's still on the bookshelf and I don't keep many.

Will have to go see the movie... thx.
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Re: We Were Soldiers
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2002, 10:28:44 AM »
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Originally posted by fdiron


(2)  I watched a documentary on the Ia Drang valley on TLC a while back.  It noted how a command decision to have a platoon march from LZ X-ray to another LZ 2 miles away caused the platoon to get ambushed.  This was not depicted in the movie either.
 


Actually, the first battalion, Lt. Col. Moore's, was withdrawn, and the second battalion was sent into LZ XRay - it was this battalion that made the march to LZ Albany, a couple miles distant, and ran into an NVA ambush.  The second battalion suffered FAR heavier losses in the ambush than the first battalion had suffered at LZ XRay.  I was watching Vietnam: On the Frontlines last night, and in an interview with the XO of Able Company of the 2nd Battalion, the lead company in the march, he said that he lost all but 3 people in his first platoon, and all but four in his second. :(


I saw this movie on Saturday, and it has hung with me... very well done - I won't make the mistake I made with Blackhawk Down in not going to see it again before it left our theatre.

In looking at it in contrast to  Platoon, or Full Metal Jacket, I think it did a good job of capturing the different sort of army that went in at first, without the political and emotional baggage that came along later.  I originally thought the movie was too innocent - that it idealized the soldiers... then when I thought of it in the context of when it happened, and the perceptions of Vietnam at that time... I think they did pretty damn well...

My one complaint is that the soldiers didn't always act like they had been trained, or told how to look like soldiers - always exposing themselves to fire, grouping together and running over the hill in a big crowd...  and my number one complaint has to be that when they got on the bus in the US to leave for Vietnam, not only did they have magazines in their rifles, but at least one of them had a 30 round magazine which was adopted later.  Sheesh.  Friggin' hollywood.

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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2002, 01:32:42 PM »
On the history channel program 'History Vs Hollywood', one of the veterans of the battle said that one specific problem with the movie was this it showed the U.S. soldiers out in the open way too much.  He said they were behind cover most of the time.  Also, the battlefield in the movie was much larger than the one in real life.

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2002, 02:23:52 PM »
I saw the movie last night.  I left the show with one question. Did the men in the  N.V. Army really  rush pointblank into a wall of enemy fire while shooting from the hip (completely inaccurate firing)  like they were dipict as doing over and over? Im thinking no man in his right mind would be that foolish to die pointlessly, you'd think they'd hit the deck and try to position or flank to get a kill not suicide rushes for 3 days straight. Anyone know?

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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2002, 03:58:27 PM »
LOL