Author Topic: Dinosaur FM (Read 698 times)

ra · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2002, 05:40:10 PM »

I agree with PimpJoe, there's a lot of speculation being passed off as established fact. I'm always reminded of that Monty Python animated sequence were a giant big toe is discovered by archeologists, who proceed to re-assemble the original animal: a mastodon with a big toe for a trunk.

Dinosaurs are big money, entertainment wise, so when someone sets out to make a dinosaur documentary they seem to only interview scientists who are willing to play along with the 'we know everything' game. For all we know T-Rex was covered with bright pink fur and ate pine cones.
A full grown elephant is the only land mammal that can't jump, not even 1 inch. The reason is that the heavier a land animal gets, the more of it's body weight is required just to defy gravity enough to move around. The same phenomenon can be seen in snakes. A 6 inch snake can slither around fast as lightning, but a 30 foot anaconda can barely move on land, and must wait in ambush for it's food.

If T-Rex was 2 or 3 times as heavy as a modern day elephant, it was likely quite a slug.

ra

mrsid2 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2002, 05:44:46 PM »

Actually, ra, the elephants run faster than humans.

I don't recall what the top speed was, but it was a lot.

I wouldn't want to be in the way of a stampeeding flock of elephants.

Naso · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2002, 06:01:03 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
If T-Rex was 2 or 3 times as heavy as a modern day elephant, it was likely quite a slug.

ra

T-Rex was (estimated) 7 tons, like a male elephant.

And yes, the elephant run surprisingly fast.

Dont stand on theyr path

Qnm · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2002, 06:50:24 PM »

[/2nd degree]

Qnm · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2002, 06:52:24 PM »

i.e. that's my point Rip.

ra · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2002, 07:18:48 PM »

I never said an elephant was slower than a human. Even a poodle can run faster than a human. But an elephant is slow in comparison to the length of its legs, and an animal that heavy wouldn't make much of a predator if it can't even jump over a small obstacle. So if T-Rex weighed the same as an elephant, it probably lumbered around. T-Rex has the added disadvantage of only 2 legs, where 4 legs are always better for speed, all else being equal. The fastest 2 legged animal is an ostrich, but it has very long legs and only weighs around 300 lbs. It is built for speed, imagine how fast it would be if it had 4 legs.

If T-Rex was a predator, its prey must have been very sluggish. It could also have been a scavenger, egg eater, fisher, ambush hunter, or some combination. We'll probably never know, but don't tell that to the people who make documentaries.

ra

superpug · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2002, 08:38:09 PM »

I think an eleiphant can run sumwhere around 30 mph

mrsid2 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2002, 01:57:23 AM »

They say the birds are evolved from the dinosaurs. Remember the special feature birds have?

They're the only species that has strong enough muscles to fly effectively.

Glasses · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2002, 02:04:42 AM »

Hitech aaand some men choke their chickens...but that's a whole nother story ain't it

Kweassa · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2002, 04:17:05 AM »

Those academic guys are wrong.

T-Rexes are supposed to go top speed of 45mph at deck alts
with MW50 boost. Everybody knows that.

Those academic buffoons are making up words just so they
can perk the T-Rex, what wimps!!

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2002, 11:58:22 AM »

No God no Adam and Eva
no toejamty ark off noach

one big bang
just evolution

i like archeologists

BUG322
=Twin Engined Devils=

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2002, 02:51:32 PM »

I just wanna see "Grumpy," and "Alice," One more time!

Gotta love claymation!

AKEagle+ · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2002, 03:28:34 PM »

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For one, a Predator would definetely NOT benefit from such short arms. They are useless for grappling a foe, useless for anything BUT holding down something that cant move any more (a carcass).

Tac:

That is pure non-sense.

I flew and am again going to fly raptors. A Hawk doesn't have any arms, does that mean it can't hunt? And must be a scavenger? NOT. A raptors weapons are it's feet, and the T-Rex main weapons would have been it's feet too. One kick from a T-Rex would send any dinosaur rolling except for the largest. Those large ones would just have massive internal damage.

AKEagle+

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2002, 03:34:41 PM »

Fish have no offensive appendages to speak of..they have teeth, and quickness.

I wouldn't want to see T-Rex H2H and wonder IF he was a scavenger, in any scenario. He probably wouldnt need to "run" fast anyway, since, he's 20+ feet tall, as his gait would be too large he wouldnt need a high bipedalic tunover, like a raptor does, at 6 feet high