Author Topic: perspective (Read 873 times)

Fatty · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2002, 12:44:58 PM »

Did you get the beer out of the backseat?

Udie at Work · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2002, 12:55:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Fatty
Did you get the beer out of the backseat?

hell yeah I had to drink it to calm my nerves down!!!!!!!!

straffo · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:08:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
wtg Udie

shite happens in a New York Minute - thing is we all take it for granted until its too late ...

In Florida we have a Good Samaritan law which states if you are witness to an accident or come up on one with injuries and do not stop to help, you can be arrested...

does it mean that there is some country were is it otherwise ???
Shocking

Octavius · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:23:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Be extremely judgemental in removing or touching anyone in a case like that, I've heard of cases where they've sued rescuers that were not paramedics because of spinal injuries, etc.

I was first hand witness to many auto accidents (Mother and sister were in a volunteer rescue squad in NJ in the 70's, we tag along as 'support' , ambulance chaser have you but with back up rescue squad support) and after awhile you get used to seeing blood and gore.

That is roadkill. Dont touch someone after an accident in fear of being sued?! Yes I know there are precautions to take, IE dont move the head or spine in case of a back injury or anything else unseen. Milwaukee County first responders (lifeguards) all the way up to level 4 (paramedics) and beyond are taught in any emergency to get the victim breathing and engage in CPR if necessary regardless of any other injuries. Thats most likely taught universally as well. A victim could be in a flipped car, unconscious, and NOT breathing... meanwhile a bystander refuses to touch them in fear of a lawsuit... thats bs... they cant sue ya if they've ceased to exist. and it sure wont matter if they end up with a permanent back injury or something of the sort if they're dead.

aside from my rant, WELL DONE UDIE !!

capt. apathy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:36:44 PM »

Most states have some sort of Good Samaritan law; it protects you from being sued as long as you don't do any procedures beyond your training or knowledge.

So basically if you are CPR trained you can't be sued for broken ribs etc. Or if you think the scene of the accident may become more dangerous (like a burning car about to explode) you can move the victim without risk of being sued for spinal damage.

But if someone isn't breathing you can't do an emergency tracheotomy with your boy scout knife because you saw it once on M*A*S*H*

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i almost forgot WTG udie

rogwar · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:49:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Tac
WTG UDIE!

If theres smoke coming out of the car they're in, SCREW them and their lawyers.. ill pull em out.

WTG Udie...that adrenaline rush is wild isn't it!

Tac,

Also one might be able to carry a release in the glovebox. In case you stumble on a burning wreck you could always have the occupant sign a release before rescuing them. But on the other hand would that not be forcing someone to sign under duress thereby making the contract invalid?

Seriously though it is amazing how in a split second one's whole world can change. Better enjoy each moment....

H. Godwineson · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:51:35 PM »

WTG Udie,

When you see someone in an accident out there on the streets you SHOULD help...the lawyers be...! Well better off left unsaid!

Many of us have found ourselves rendering assistance to accident victims, and I dare say very few of us had the time to think about possible lawsuits.

Good work!

Shuckins

"Lawyers should never marry other lawyers. This leads to INBREEDING...and more lawyers!"

CyranoAH · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:54:03 PM »

WTG Udie!!!

Humanity is somewhat disappointing when you place your hope in it, but cases such as yours and of many more volunteers make me think there's hope after all

I hope that, if I'm a witness to an accident, I'm able to perform as dilligently as you did.

Daniel

midnight Target · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2002, 02:55:46 PM »

To learn more about the Good Samaratin Law....watch the last episode of Seinfeld.

Udie at Work · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2002, 03:39:29 PM »

Thanks for all the WTG's guys, but I don't know if they are necesary. I didn't do anything that most other people wouldn't have done. The only thing I was concerned about was that nobody freakin died while I was standing there. There was no thought involved, had there been I probobly wouldn't have gotten near a smoking car. I'm the biggest wimp I know and have never had to do anything like this at all. I didn't save anybody I just happened to be the first guy at the scene.

1 wierd side effect has been that I've been VERY tired all day since the wreck and my back is squealing hurting bad. I am however still amazed that I was able to open that door, I guess what they say about that super human strength thing while under the influence of adrenaline is true. I went back there at lunch and you can see the gouge I made in the pavement

a nice 1 or 2 inch deep arc in the middle of the lane hehe.

I will never forget the look on both their faces, the lady in the first car didn' realise she was hurt I think. Poor souls are probobly still in the hospitol now hurting bad

I got yet another reminder today just how fragile this thing we call life is. It can be snatched away in a second without you even knowing it. I guess it's had me thinking all day too (stand back

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SO....

I'd like to take this time to apologise to everybody here who I've ever pissed of or been rude to. Weazle, FD-ski, mrfish and anybody else who I can't remember getting into an argument with. This toejam we fight about in here (well alot of it anyway) is stupid and not worth getting ourselves all riled up over. Ya never know when the ride's going to be over, and I don't want to go out pissed at somebody or with somebody pissed at me so from here on out I'll try to be the nice udie of my youth

gavor · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2002, 08:52:06 PM »

wd udie, i'll always remember the people who stopped to help me or talk to me after I had a big car accident. my guess is they'll be very grateful.

i've been first on the scene of one or two accidents, but sadly they were fatalities so it was just a matter of sitting around and waiting for the authorities to come along.

Maverick · « **Reply #26 on:** March 08, 2002, 04:12:48 PM »

Udie,

From a retired Cop. You did good. Don't knock yourself for acting in the interests of others. For the others who want to sit idle in a time of crisis. There is a law known as the Good Samaritan Law that protects those who act with GOOD intent to help others in need (medically) even though they are not trained. Standing by and watching another suffer or die in a fire when you could have saved them without undue risk to yourself is just cowardice. Kind of reminds me of "news people" who shoot pictures and step over the bodies of injured people instead of helping.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #27 on:** March 08, 2002, 04:25:11 PM »

Maverick hit the nail on the head. The good samaritan law protects anyone with good intentions in a situation like that.

Looks to me like you handled it very well... in the more dangerous situation... you helped them out of the car. In the less dangerous one... you had them stay still.

Well done. The decisions made at a time like that are not always the best. You seem to have avoided that trap quite nicely.

AKDejaVu

Udie at Work · « **Reply #28 on:** March 08, 2002, 04:32:00 PM »

hehe it's called "luck"

I was shaking like a leaf on a tree

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #29 on:** March 08, 2002, 04:43:51 PM »

I'd rather be lucky than good. Though, when I'm not lucky I'd like to think I merely settle for good.