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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2001, 11:27:00 AM »
Need numbers to open a HA. Need people to fly scenarios to prove there's a real desire for a HA.

Until then, you might just be peeing in the wind.
EDIT: BTW, if you think the MA has problems right now... and you want a permanent HA... you ain't seen nuthin' yet! Lopsided teams, one side has better aircraft, etc... Just keep that in mind.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2001, 12:23:00 PM »
DJ, go build a chip and sheddup, you 'ol woman.

Geeez.

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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2001, 12:47:00 PM »
Maybe next time you could just fight the urge to be you?

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2001, 12:50:00 PM »
DJ, Hblair... maybe you two should make up over a bowl of    ....
-SW
 

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2001, 12:52:00 PM »
Historic Arena is an oxymoron.

Events are where it's at.

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2001, 01:00:00 PM »
I kinda see your point Anrky...


It could wind up being another Limited planeset Furball.. instead of the Multiplane set furball. we have now.

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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2001, 01:00:00 PM »
For me Distance is not as important as being able to tell enemy from friendly.  Once their within the 1k range I'm concentrating on shooting them down or getting them off my six.

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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2001, 01:02:00 PM »
How in the world do I get into these arguements? What are we arguing over anyway? Truce DJ? We're both grown men aren't we? I'll make you a deal, no more cheap shots on you if you'll say you want to lose the dar in the MA. Deal?

Seriously, truce?

(I love you man!)

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2001, 02:15:00 PM »
Why does everyone hijac my thread?  I am serious curious what everyone thinks  :)  I guess I will just my kicks for it in the scenarious.  Thanks for the input for those that responded ;/

Nim

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2001, 04:10:00 PM »
Still out on the question of D3 enemy icons.  I do have to admit that icon setting in the Rumble gave an addition to the pucker factor.  It was very cool.

However, in the main arena.  I’m not so sure.  I think the MA should be setup for the least experienced and knowledgeable pilots.  Being able to see the enemy at D6 can give you an advantage of being able to flee the engagement.  At D3, well with E and altitude advantage against you there wouldn’t be much of a chance to turn tail and run.

With the current settings there is a lot of room to plan what the next move is.  How, where, and when to engage and so on.  Not sure about the rest of you but it took me awhile to build my situational awareness.  I think new players could be at a serious disadvantage with a D3 setting.

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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2001, 06:13:00 PM »
nimmy i like it

as for "less experienced and knowledgeable pilots" well i think that unless you have at least a years stck timein SOME sort of flight sim you arent going to stand a flying chance in aces high. that flight sim could be fighetr ace, i dont care, but you bette rknow the differene from ridder and ailerons. aces high is not and should not be a sim to cut your teeth on... the frustration factor flying against 10 year vets would be too high imo. when i started in tour 3 i think i had a rough time and i had already played flight sims offline on and off since AOTP and i still had a rough time.

btw if youall remember, all you guys arguing about icons, i played ACES OF THE PACIFIC in 320x200 resolution glory without icons. funny how we didnt need em then but now with 1280x1024 we do need em  :)

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2001, 06:21:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
as for "less experienced and knowledgeable pilots" well i think that unless you have at least a years stck timein SOME sort of flight sim you arent going to stand a flying chance in aces high. that flight sim could be fighetr ace, i dont care, but you bette rknow the differene from ridder and ailerons. aces high is not and should not be a sim to cut your teeth on... the frustration factor flying against 10 year vets would be too high imo. when i started in tour 3 i think i had a rough time and i had already played flight sims offline on and off since AOTP and i still had a rough time.

Oh man is that a buncha crap... if newbies don't play how the hell can you expect AH to stay afloat?

I trained the pilot you all know as "GA", who is the CO of the 332nd Mongrels European wing. He went by "wobbel" at the time (not TheWobble)... 2 weeks of flying in the TA and he's kicking ass.

So don't tell me this game isn't for newbies. It isn't that hard to catch onto if you have someone who's been playing these things for years.
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2001, 09:49:00 AM »
I agree with you Zigrat that it would be extremely difficult for a new pilot who has never experienced an online flight SIM before.  It would be damn right frustrating.  At the same time SW makes a point about training.  I actually think it would be easier for someone not experienced at all.  Why?  There are not any pre-learned bad habits from the other SIM’s.

My experience is only with FA; however, that is an excellent example.  There I had the advantage of a full screen view, external views, and a padlock that makes the chic from the Exorcist look like an amateur.  I had the basics of flight down but getting used to using the hat switch only, well I ended up with a new joystick after throwing the other one, hehe.

I seem to remember a quote, “You can be the best pilot in the world, know all of the ACM’s, and its all worthless if you can’t land hits on the target down range”, or something like that.  The hardest part of AH to me was getting used to the views.  Now this is close up and the discussion is icons far away but I think the same applies.

The new pilot:  “I can fly somewhat but still stall out every once in awhile.  I’m flying along and the icon appears without me seeing the dot before.  I’m scared, jerk the stick, I’m dog meat.  Paint a big target on me please”

<Cough>  On another note, Fester didn’t seem to have any problems racking up 63 kills last night and that’s when I was logging off.  I have no idea what the streak actually got to.  The long range icons and in flight DAR didn’t seem to hinder his ability to score kills in anyway.

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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2001, 09:53:00 AM »
Zippatuh, the US Navy and USAF prefer the cadet's that have no flight time over cadet's that have their pilot's license.

It's easier to teach guys something new than to change what they are already acquainted with.   ;)
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2001, 10:19:00 AM »
I dunno Zig (about the Newbie thing).  I played Flying Circus (WW I Sim) for six months or so (maybe a little longer).  That was the only experience I had coming into AH.  I picked up AH during the summer of 2000, as the first and only WW II flight sim I have ever dabbled with.  In a years time I think I have turned into a pretty solid stick.  

Although the might Drex visited me last night and made me realize I have a LOT to learn ...  :D

Maybe I am just that good though, and able to pick up on things quickly  :D  May not!

Nim