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Offline Westy

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« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2000, 07:36:00 AM »
 Crabby shows up and adds his nickels worth of purile whine too.  And within 24 hours of MG's hissy fit.   Cod. So predictable.
 
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« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2000, 07:41:00 AM »
To Spitboy:

Your post makes a lot of sense and I like your ways of expressing your points of view.

But I have to disagree...HTC is a 6 people project, and 6 people means that they can develop the product fast only, and if, they concentrate resources on the biggest share of the market...I.E. PCs.

You say that Mac is 1/4 or 1/5 of the market. Ok...but if to get that 20-25% of market they are going to slow down the development of AH and so piss off the other 80-75% then I think that is not a good strategy.

I am sure that Mac version will be available in the future. I am sure you'll enjoy AH when it goes out in Mac. But right now there is no reason for HTC to raise a Mac version, as it wouldn't do good for Ah's development.

At least that is my opinion.

 
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And one last thing. Pyro, Superfly, I think it's kind of unprofessional to make posts like you do against potential customers, even if they ARE trolling or asking for a virtual clubbing. You got players to take care of it, no need to do it yourselves. It's one thing to take issue with a person and their comments; it's another entirely to join in the ridicule of someone in a public forum as a representative of your company.

Feel free to disagree, that's just my opinion after seeing a couple of similar posts in other threads by you two.



Spitboy, what MG is doing is to splat toejam over AH all the time. AH is a project of only 6 guys working VERY hard day after day, lovely raised by them and done with a lot of dedication.

If I work VERY hard on something only to see a stupid come and spread garbage over it I'm going to call him...well you know...
instead they laugh a bit and make a joke at his stupid behaviour. If I was pyro I wont be so good with him. I'd literally call him what he is, a damned stupid spammer with the mind of a 4 months old subnormal monkey.

They got players to care about, and they sure care about mac users. But for sure they dont mind a toejam if MG comes to AH or not.
And I dont do it, either.

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« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2000, 07:49:00 AM »
Cabby, Spitboy, MG:  What online flight sim game did you fly before WB's, if any?  And, if you did, why did you come over to Warbirds when you did?

Just curious.

Straight-forward answer, hold the sarcasm please.  


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« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2000, 08:45:00 AM »
.........gone fishing

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« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2000, 08:45:00 AM »
In a hissy-fit, Macboy/MG wrote:

 
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Play your slap-together outdated code of a game ....

Sorry Macboy .. I closed my WB account ages ago  

BTW.. just WHEN is WB3 going open beta?

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« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2000, 09:18:00 AM »
Rip, I first got into WW2 online sims with Mac Air Warrior's open beta in 1995. AW had a long history of supporting Macs in the dark ages, before AW4W (and Amigas, too   ). MacAW was the port of AW4W, which was the AW entry into the Win95 platform.

Remember that pre 1995, there was only AW. And since its inception in the late 80s to around 1994, Macs were supported in AW, through DOSAW.

The plug was pulled on Mac AW (it was a mercy killing) around 1998, after it shockingly failed to gain a following at $2 an hour on AOL alongside PC AW4W, which was free, and PCAW3, which was $2 an hour. Remember. MacAW never evolved past DOSAW stage, and yet they expected Mac folks to pay $2 an hour in 1998 for a port of a 1994 game that was never finished and never should have left beta. Interestingly, Jay Littman was the producer for MacAW, and he's now the WB3 producer.

I played WB since WB 1.11, long before the demise of MacAW. I played both alongside each other; MacAW for the excellent, small and close community, and WB for the superior graphics and gameplay at the time. I did play MacAW til the bitter end.

RAM, you make a good point. I did admit it would have slowed down development, but I still maintain it could have been kept to a minimum of delay.

Re: Pyro and Superfly, I have the utmost respect for what they've done. It's easily apparent that this is not IPO fodder for them, but something they believe in and WANT to make. But that's irrelevant to me. Any business reps should act like business reps in a public forum with their customers. Sure, this venue is a little different, and we can all be buds and chums and share jokes and beer. But ridiculing people maliciously is never something I like to see company reps do. I said the same things about Hotseat over on AGW, btw; he often goes off on people in a similar manner.

Call me old fashioned, but that's my belief  

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« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2000, 09:35:00 AM »
Wow.. a thread started to bash someone.. then continued when the individual retaliates.

One observation I have to agree with about the AH community... they tend to hang around waiting for an easy target.

So.. Pyro.. how little does a thread have to accomplish before it gets locked?

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« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2000, 09:40:00 AM »
The reason I asked, Spitboy, is that alot of the WB folks now sound like alot of the AW folks did when WB's came out. Thankfully its a minority.It's fate that history repeats itself once again.

As for me, I played AWDOS when it was like $5/hour, moved to CK(WB's) V.82 since it was something 'different'. I can remember AW guys coming online in beta just to bash the game...hehehe.  I can remember not liking the flight model in CK (WB's) too, but never went to extremes to point out its flaws.  I couldn't anyway, I've never flown a real Warbird, only Cessna's.

Anyway, good to see you sucking up again to the community that appears to be leaving you behind...JUST KIDDING!  

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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2000, 09:52:00 AM »
Well yeah, and it sounds like a lot of the MacAW folks whenever WB was mentioned. Anytime a new product comes out, there will be those that flock to the new, and those that remain with the old. Each feels their product is better, and can't understand why the OTHER morons don't get it.  

It'll happen again once WW2OL comes out, mark my words.

I'm cornfused by your last statement, though. You mean HTC or WB when saying "leaving us behind."?

And I'm not "sucking up," tho I know you meant that in jest. Just trying to present a different viewpoint from a Mac perspective.

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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2000, 11:11:00 AM »
I really hope MG isn't from the USA
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« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2000, 11:45:00 AM »
My first sim was in 1974, while in the USNavy (Viet Nam verteran), in the Operations room aft of where I worked as a Quartermaster (navigator) in the pilot-house of a flag ship guided-missle destroyer-cruiser. It was a simulation of naval battles that could be played on about 12 round screens each being manned most of the time. Thats where I hung out alot during off-hours, and a few hours during work  

The ships and submarines were outlined rectangles (the submarines only visible on surface breach or you were one) with guns (small lines) that could turret with a track-ball. All on a small network. Loved it. State of the art.

Then, for me, came Falcon, a bit-mapped version on a small Mac Plus in 1985. I was hooked again. The mac was revolutionary as it was a fabulous tool for my graphic design field. Other computers at the time were mainly data-entry stuff, with no mouse, and only line-entry stuff, which didn't interest me, unless it was a type-setter. So, I now had, the best of both worlds, fun and games that easily interfered with my productive artsyfartsy stuff.

Then I grabbed any flight-sim as soon as it came on the shelf. Chuck Yeager Air Combat (which I played with a friend occassionally because of his lack of interest, couldn't get into it even when I begged  , Hornet, A-10 Attack! and A-10 Cuba. Even dabbled a little in MacAW, but was so dissatisfied with the look and feel of the game, couldn't do much with it.

During this time, I was reading Parsoft's (A-10 Attack!/Cuba) boards, and reading about a new game that came out called Warbirds. It was all the rave, and continuously talked about, and they were soon to come out with a mac version, not long after its debut. First thing I got up in the morning, the first place I automatically went was the Parsoft boards to see if "it" had arrived yet. Every single morning, every single moment I could, I was waiting waiting waiting.

Then finally, Warbirds Mac Beta!!!! I was there! Even though the Mac beta arena was FREE, I would go fly in the $2/hour PC arena (available to macs too) because there were more players. I thought to myself, and discussed with many a mac pilot how awesome these guys were for porting it to the mac and Caligula was our God. (Mac was a bit more respected during those times). An online multi-player game, with not just one other player, not just macs, but with anyone in the world. I've been struggling to make money to play the thing ever since. Heroin ain't nothin'.

And for those misintrepreting my message. Its not the game. There are tons of games available for PC only, and I would go nuts trying to fight the masses in the name of macs. I realize whats going on with the platform thing, I might have been born at night, but not last night. But its the harrassing at AGW from IEN bashers and AH promoters that gets my dander up. I don't know Jay Littman, so I tend to just listen with regards to whatever he has done to foul up anything or his business sense. Its the untruths about WB on AGW to make it look shoddy or worse than it is to attract PC'ers that is what gets me in an uproar. AGW is a place to discuss Warbirds, warts and all, and yes, to compare with other flight sims. Not to have players from other flightsims come a-bashing Warbirds. The ex-warbirders two years ago wouldn't have put up with it, but they can sure do it now they have a place to run.

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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2000, 11:50:00 AM »
<Ripsnort flips MG(Macboy) a nickel into the old worn hat MG has in his trembling, dirty hands...turns and continues strolling down the boulevard whistling>.....

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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2000, 12:18:00 PM »
Lets see Ripsnort/soup4you/dinkyminky/?/, you ask what sims I've played, I tell ya, then you flip me a nickel. You're about as scummy as they come, eh?

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« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2000, 12:30:00 PM »
 Oooh. The spittle flies from the lips and the frothing drips from his chin.  The glassy eyed cold stare comes next and then it's straigh jacket time for ole "Mactard" MG.
 I'd wager that what little, very little, there was in the sympathy account  for MG ran out quite a long time ago and that it just hit the massive deficit stage.
 You're obssessed MG.  Time for you to seek some help.

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« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2000, 12:31:00 PM »
<Pssst...Mac, the TinkyWinky/NoSoup4U, was a joke on you...but don't tell MG okay?)  

Hmm, I have a daughter?!?  Oh boy, now I'm in big trouble!

One other note: your outragious posts only strengthens this community and verifies how good customer support and software is within the AH community.  Thank you for your part in solidifying the future for HTC.

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