Author Topic: Porn - evil or not? (Read 1132 times)

Creamo · « **Reply #45 on:** March 18, 2002, 07:30:20 PM »

Greese rents 'Chicks with Dicks', and next thing he knows, $200/hour marriage therapy sessions?

Poison indeed.

Vulcan · « **Reply #46 on:** March 18, 2002, 08:07:30 PM »

You ARE kidding right?

My wife loves porn! Hell she encourages me to download VCDs of alt.binaries.erotica.vcd even. Out of our married friends at least 90% of the openly admit to watching and enjoying porn (both males and females).

My wife started lending out my porn VCDs out to her female friends LOL.

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Originally posted by Greese
Porn is bad, not because of religion though. Go talk to any marriage and family therapist about what porn is doing to families. That's not a god issue, it's a family issue. Some men believe that if they keep the snake in it's cage, then why not indulge the mind a bit? Nothing wrong, until you can't have an awesome sex life with your wife because you can't get those images out of your head. It's poison, and it will haunt a good marriage. Keep the fire in the fireplace, and you won't get burned.

gavor · « **Reply #47 on:** March 18, 2002, 08:40:10 PM »

Vulcan is god.

My gf doesnt MIND me watching it and has joined me on occasions but in general she doesnt understand the attraction

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StSanta · « **Reply #48 on:** March 19, 2002, 12:49:03 AM »

Hm, very interesting replies here - and quite surprising, in some cases.

I should have made a clear definition of porn - I'm not talking Playboy images, but rather photos and films of humans engaging in sexual activity with each other. This narrows it down a bit.

Studies have shown that repeated exposure to porn results in porn losing some of its enticing effect - that's what the objective studies I've seenhave come out with. There are oothers out there too. Some, paid for by feminist groups, claim it degrades women and encourages sexism and rape, whereas others, paid for by porn advocates, state the exact opposite.

There is rampant sexism and inequality in porn. Females make more than twice as much as males. Except for tennis and some other professions, this isn't seen in many places.

An American acquaintance I have say the women actually doing the porn - the normal stuff - don't see it as degrading. They see it as a good job where they can earn a lot of money in a very short time span, which they then can use for whatever they want. The problem for them he claims is not that they find it degrading, but that other groups do and those groups apply pressure on the rest of society and that the pressure is coming from this idea that porn is seedy and evil. This is second hand knowledge though so I won't trust it too far (just as I won't trust second hand knowledge from the feminists I know).

Doesn't seem evil or wicked to me.

It's amusing how you can turn things around - in an argument with one of the feminists who argued that it was degrading to women and really using them, I asked if one could not see it the other way around. Smart women (and men) taking advantage of a biological urge that men are more 'allowed' to indulge in than woman in society in genereal. Essentially, women ripping men from money just because they have a sex drive. She said it was far out and reaching and it is, just as her argument that it's degrading to women is. It all depends on the situation and the woman at hand, I'd say.

If I had to choose between earning $750 an hour as a porn actor and flipping burgers for $7 an hour, I'd have to ask myself which is more demeaning and abusive. Just social constructs coming at play, I guess.

Will see if I can find some more independent studies, with some more meat on the bones.

Sandman · « **Reply #49 on:** March 19, 2002, 01:03:54 AM »

Hmmm...

A registered nurse with a degree in microbiology.

Ms. Patrick is obviously being exploited.

hblair · « **Reply #50 on:** March 19, 2002, 01:38:15 AM »

I'm with Greese. Been there done that. Porn will stick in your mind, did mine anyway. You can find yourself staring at every good looking woman that walks by, thinkin of here nekkid. Can cause marriage probs too. My wife doesn't dig porn and I like that. Sure, I laid around with potatos when I was single and watched that stuff just to see the girls reaction, did all that nasty crap. But couldn't imagine the woman raising my kids "digging" porn. My views on porn have changed since I got married.

Any of you guys with daughters mind posting some pics here of your daughter with a big dildo shoved up her avacado? I wanna look. Mind if I jerk off while looking at her? How big are her tits? Don't be closed minded.
Every HO you see in a dirty pic is some poor jokers daughter. If my daughter did that it'd break my heart. But hey, that's just me. Judging from some of the responses above, some of you would prolly be ok with it.

Now don't get all bent outa shape and 'splode on me like in the dope smoking threads. I gotta right to my viewpoint too don't I?

miko2d · « **Reply #51 on:** March 19, 2002, 08:33:22 AM »

Hblair,
Porn can be addictive to some people - same as drugs, alcohol, gambling, sex, bullying, etc. Some people have suceptible minds/physiologies - witness the whole native populations affected by newly-introduced alcohol. The level of hormones changes with age - it is the greatest in humans while the judgement is not yet sufficiently developed in teenage years.
Still, the fact that some people can be affected it is not the reason to prevent mentally-stable healthy persons from accessing something.

My wife and I watched porn together a few times. She even suggested it a couple of times. I do not think it matters in the least to her ability to be a good mother to my children.

As for posting our daughters picks, that would be exploitation and probably illegal. The daughters themselves once they reach the age of concent can post any pictures of themselves that they like - and there would be nothing we could or should do about it!
I admit that the idea of my daughter posting her naked picks does not attract me much even though by far it's not the worst thing that I can imagine. So I would use my influence during her upbringing to affect her presonality in a way that suits me.

Whenever I see a dirty pick of a woman, the last thing I think about is her father. If I do see an underage girl, I would think not only of her father but also of police - because that woudl be a crime under our laws.

Pictures and movies are media. How about the real thing? I visited the nudie bar a few times and even had a chance to talk to a "hostess" just for buying her a $17 ginger-ale.
She was a smart beautifull young woman making some money on the side while studying at a law school. I know that is often the case with such girls and even the prostitutes. There are plenty of retail and other jobs available in NYC and a person so smart, beautifull and charismatic would not have the slightest problem getting one for a decent salary. It was clearly their choice to be working where they did. I would not feel right in limiting their choices or mine for that matter.

At the same time I clearly understand how you feel. My heart woudl be broken too. But the answer is in you as a parent taking responcibility for your kids - not expecting a society to do it for you. It would never make a good job. I bet germans in 1938 were happy about the way society was handling their children upbringing. In a few years their sons ended up dead and their daughters raped.

miko

mora · « **Reply #52 on:** March 19, 2002, 08:54:10 AM »

I'm a bit surprised to see this much anti porn people here. Do you think that porn should be made illegal?

I cant remember seeing anyone who is against porn yet video porn was made legal in Finland only a year ago. Of course that law wasn't obeyed by anyone and porn was distributed openly like everywhere else.