Author Topic: We Don't Need Or Want No Damn P61 (Read 410 times)

Oldman731 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2002, 08:17:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A wealth of information can be found here about the P61 and a restoration project that is going on:
http://www.maam.org/p61/p61cont.html

Was just about to point that out. The location is Reading, PA.

Despite its amazing ugliness and huge-ness, the P-61 was the USAAF's most maneuverable fighter. According to Craven and Cates, in their official history of the Army Air Forces in WWII.

That is to say, "the most maneuverable fighter."

I think this had something to do with the length of the alierons or something.

- Oldman

fdiron · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2002, 12:55:25 PM »

The late model P61 was much faster than the early model aircraft.

Karnak · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2002, 12:58:20 PM »

The late model P-61 is post-WWII as well.

All WWII P-61s had a 366mph top speed.

Ripsnort,

You want it with, or without the turret? I'd like it with the turret. I always thought that made it look better, besides, it'd be fun to sit in the back and try to ward off bad guys while the pilot used the 4 20mm cannon.

MadBirdCZ · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2002, 01:17:05 PM »

I want it WITH the turret but i relly do not care if it is fixed forward or controlled. It looks better with the turret!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2002, 01:20:55 PM »

Karnak, the post-war model (P61E) was renamed the Northrop XF-15 (Reconaissance role)

The four machine guns were installed in a remotely controlled turret on top of the fuselage were deleted on many if not most P-61As, I believe the flight characteristics due to the CoG and "pilot's feel" was basis for decision to remove them, and the fact that the allies had almost total air superiority over the battle fields of both Europe and the Pacific. The P-61 was surprisingly maneuverable for such a large aircraft, but too slow compared to other twin engine counter-parts (P38L) to make a really excellent fighter.

To answer the question? Drop the .50 cal turrets up above(and subsequently lightening it up, as well as enhancing its top end speed) and go with just the 4X20mm.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2002, 01:27:15 PM »

Incidently, I personally like to see HTC fill out the Naval airships alittle more before moving onto planes such as this..we could use a few more Japanese Naval planes, maybe a Perk F7F

, definately the F4F, etc. etc.

Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2002, 01:38:12 PM »

Perk F7F, Perk A7M2, Helldiver and B7A2 "Grace" and you have a "whatif" scenario for the Shinano not being sunk and the A-Bomb not being dropped.

A "one last great naval fight" before its over senario.

Sabre · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2002, 02:32:09 PM »

Rip:

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I'll make a promise to Pyro that I will NEVER post on AGW again if he gives us the P61.

That's all well and good, but do you promise to stop posting on the AH BBS;)? Just kidding.

Sabre

Ripsnort · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2002, 02:41:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Sabre
Rip:

That's all well and good, but do you promise to stop posting on the AH BBS;)? Just kidding.

Sabre

Thats a "Post TargetWare Release" question

Tac · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2002, 03:17:43 PM »

P-61 is prettier than the P-38.

Except the P-38M of course. Black is trendy!

BRING THE P-61 to AH!