Author Topic: Gay question (Read 1134 times)

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #45 on:** March 26, 2002, 03:59:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Lance
:::chuckles::: And I don't like pimply-faced youngins who can't yet buy themselves a beer. Your island is ----> thataway:D

In a month I can buy beer.... legally.

But I've been capable of getting my own beer for a good 3 years now.

-SW

Maverick · « **Reply #46 on:** March 27, 2002, 12:17:56 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Mav,

There are many recessive genetic traits that continue to be present inthe population despite their tendency to preclude procreation. Tay-Sachs disease is just one example, and I posted a link to a site discussing that on the other thread.

As to the choice - birth question. This just seems obvious to me. Did any of you make a choice as to your sexual orientation? Doesn't matter what that orientation is, just did you choose it, or did it just come naturally to you?

another question, why would the percentage of gays in the general population remain constant if it were a choice? Wouldn't this number fluctuate significantly with the popularity / persecution of gays?

Target,

None of these points you raise have anything to do with my post. You must have me confused with another posting person.

PS I do know about birth defects, from personal experiance. One was surgically corrected, the other I live with.

midnight Target · « **Reply #47 on:** March 27, 2002, 12:39:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
Not taking a position in either way on the question at the start of the thread. I do have another question about it.

On the basis of natural selection and evolution, isn't homosexuality a genetic dead end? I suppose you could argue that in practicing strictly as a homosexual you wouldn't be passing on your genes. This is, of course, without the reliance of scientific practices for artificial insemination etc. to remedy the situation in regards to a natural conception.

Again I am not taking a position on right vs wrong or whatever, this thought just occured to me as I started reading the thread.

My post is in response to your "genetic dead end" question.

The rest is just other observations, and not directed at you. Sorry for the confusion.

LePaul · « **Reply #48 on:** March 27, 2002, 02:56:12 PM »

My brother is gay. Luckily, he's not the kind that's lisping like crazy, wagging around like a girl or, in short, a flamer. You wouldn't know unless he told you.

(My first hint that he was...hmm....had to be that Madonna Fan Club he started when he was 16, complete with the 'Desperately Seeking Susan' jacket and all. LOL )

All thoughts that he might turn straight vanished, as he lived with 4 gorgeous models (seen em, had to hide a boner the whole f**king time)....and they were showing off belly and nipple rings. He lived through that gay, there's no hope...

Gay Gene? Doubt there is one. Gay people are as varied as straight people, I'm finding. For every strange queer, I can round up 10 emotionally kooked straight people.

Wanna cure something? Kill that "White Power" gene. It should be right next to the "small noodle" enzyme

gavor · « **Reply #49 on:** March 27, 2002, 10:03:38 PM »

Why is this still a question? I think all the answers I have have been covered by Lance, Animal etc. Just cos someone isn't like you doesnt make them bad.

Gunthr · « **Reply #50 on:** March 27, 2002, 10:32:17 PM »

Hey LePaul, interesting life experience there. I was wondering how your parents felt about your brother's orientation.

I'm close to a gay man I work with. I can't not like or not care for the dude. He actually took care of me for weeks after I got out of a lengthy hospital stay with a broken back, and I couldn't get out of bed. I was fairly new in Florida and lived alone at the time and didn't have many friends outside work. I've known him and worked with him for 20 years now. He has a gay significant other, who is just a bit swishy. They own a house together. His parents appear to be totally accepting of him. You wouldn't pick up on him being gay either, except after knowing him for a while.

We don't talk about him being gay. Funny huh? I don't socialize with him much, tho we used to do a lot of flying together. He still has his 182. Occasionally, at work I'll razz him and go into graphic detail about cunnilingus or analingus and how I would perform it on a given hot chick - just to watch him squirm. Its funny.

He knows I know he knows... and we just leave it at that. He's a good guy. He's a conservative Republican, too.

batdog · « **Reply #51 on:** March 28, 2002, 07:20:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Animal
No, I wouldnt change it.

Gay is not an illness. Hell it isnt even an unnatural anomally.

I am also very much with Lance on this one. Maybe if we single out those tolerance genes, this stupid question wont even be asked in the future.

Whats next? isolating the jew and gypsy genes?

Tolernce is taught..not inherited/passed on. Its often a direct reflection socio-economic levels as well.

xBAT

StSanta · « **Reply #52 on:** March 28, 2002, 10:12:39 AM »

I think all men should be gay, except me.

I also think all women should be extremely dedicated to having sex with men.

Lastly, I think it would be a good idea if they knew I was the only non gay man alive, and that they knew my phone number.

That's what I think.

LePaul · « **Reply #53 on:** March 28, 2002, 10:44:41 AM »

Hey Gunthr

Well, my folks had a rough ride with my brother announcing he was gay. My Dad, assistant principal of the high school we both went to, and Lt Col in the Air National Guard, didn't take it very well. I lot of what happened back then, I was out of the loop. I recall they did the counselling thing and such, trying to work it out among the 3 of them.

I think hate crimes making the news really unnerves my parents, such as the kid left to die tied to that fence a year or so ago, etc. Like all good parents, they worry. More so now.

What I see now is my folks really bending over backwards to be accepting of him, because I think their intial reaction sent him the wrong signals.

And as a sibling, it sorta annoys me....but, he's the baby of the family and if you are the oldest in your family, you know how that all works and such

Interesting that he is a conservative republican, but then again, so am i....even though there are some issues I think differently on (abortion, etc)

Gunthr · « **Reply #54 on:** March 28, 2002, 12:43:35 PM »

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And as a sibling, it sorta annoys me....but, he's the baby of the family and if you are the oldest in your family, you know how that all works and such

I sure do LePaul. I'm the oldest of 8 kids. I have 5 mischevious younger brothers, and two younger sisters. I've taken whuppings for every single one of them. The way the youngest was treated, you'd think we had different parents.

I also guess that its no fun having your horizons expanded by force via having a gay sibling. I'm sure it would entail some adjustment, depending on your age at the time he realized his sexuality.

As a parent with considerable life experience, I know that I would love my child no matter what sexual orientation they are.

Thanks

StSanta · « **Reply #55 on:** March 29, 2002, 01:54:55 PM »

Gunthr, what if your child turns out to be a LW pilot, with pink leather g-string, metal studs on inside?

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #56 on:** March 29, 2002, 04:10:33 PM »

What causes young boys to turn gay depends on how they're reared.

Sox62 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 29, 2002, 08:49:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
What causes young boys to turn gay depends on how they're reared.

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Gunthr · « **Reply #58 on:** March 30, 2002, 06:32:31 AM »

StSanta,

I could not reject a child that has sprung from my own pink-leathered loins