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Offline narsus

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Question about the corsairs
« on: March 28, 2002, 02:19:30 PM »
What is the difference between the F4U-1 and F4U-1D, I think I read somewhere that the 1D is a ground attack version. Where as the F4U-1 id a dedicated fighter.

And the follow-up question is what are the strengths of both in the MA.

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2002, 02:26:40 PM »
Wasn't the F4U-1 the initial release, and the F4U-1D the patch that fixed the "Birdcage" bug and added the "Navy will let me land on a CV" Feature?

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2002, 02:29:45 PM »
the -1 is the first model  to see combat. it has a bircage canopy, is lighter and a bit faster then -1d, but it does not climb as well. It also has wing tanks that hold 60 gallons each the -1d did not. Another major difference is it does not have the spoiler all later models had on the right wing, so when it stalls it drops the left wing badly and inverts you. This is a bad thing on landing!

The 1d was a fighter bomber, no wing tanks, better prop, better visability, and can carry 2 1000 pounders and 8 rockets or 150 gallon drop tanks instead of bombs.

Both have 6 .50 MGs

The -1 seems to handle a bit better.

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2002, 02:30:25 PM »
We have the -1A. I forget what it added.

The -1A is the early model, the -1D is more refined. -1D removed the wing tanks, new canopy, added a strip on the wing to prevent it from spinning violently, new engine... basically a newer F4U.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2002, 02:32:04 PM »
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 That was the -1A, it solved all the CV probs and had the raised non birdcage canopy but it still only had the centerline store. So it could only carry a 1000 pounder or a drop tank.

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2002, 02:35:16 PM »
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 The -1a does all you describe, and we do NOT have it. The -1d came out like in march of 44, and added the rockets and two bomb racks.

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2002, 02:46:18 PM »
Howdy,

The differance between the F4U-1 and F4U-1D in AH is this.

1. The F4U-1 has wings tanks for fuel and carries much more fuel than the -1D. If you up in a -1 never take more than 50%. 50% in the -1 is the same as more than 75% in the -1D. 100% fuel in the -1 is 160% of what the -1D carries. So never takeoff with more than 50% unless you are going cross country.

2. With comprable fuel loads in AH the -1 will turn better than the -1D.


3. The -1 is faster than the -1D by between 5 and 10MPH.

4. The -1D has 2250HP as apposed to 2135HP in the -1 and it has a paddle prop so it climbs/accerates better.

Note: The -1 in AH is not a pure -1 or it would not have water injection. It is a hybrid -1A.

Also the -1D is modeled with underwing pylons regardless of loadout slowing it down or it would be faster than the -1.

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2002, 02:50:06 PM »
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 I thought some of the late run -1' s had water injection?

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2002, 12:36:25 AM »
I love the -1, especially the paint job, but will abandon it immediately if the -1A is ever added. If the -1D ever got repainted, maybe Boyington's colors?, then I might fly -1Ds more.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2002, 12:36:46 PM »
gtora2,

The answer to your question is, yes the late model -1's did have water injection. But they are known as the-1a. There were several mods made to create a -1a and the addition of water was one of them. another is the bubble canopy as well as the spoiler strip on the port wing, raised tail wheel. Also on the later -1a's the hp was increased to 2250hp and a paddle blade prop was added (three blade). These were the best performing f4u's used in combat with the exception of the f4u-4. They had a top speed of 365mph on the deck and 425mph at 25k as well as a much better rate of climb. They are the 1944 version of the -1a. We have the mid 1943 hybrid -1a. The only feature of the -1a is water injection, otherwise it has all of the -1 features such as the birdcage canopy.

Here is a chart showing the late -1a's performance in comparison with a p-51b and a mofied f4u-1 to represent the f4u-4. the -1a performance is the slower of the two f4u-'s.



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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2002, 02:17:31 PM »
-1a's had water injection even tho there really was no "a" model it was just called that.   goodyear made a lot of -1's that had no folding wings....  These were very light planes and considered the best handling Corsairs of all.   Nobody used the wing tanks much and the first ones actually had problems with leaks.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2002, 07:29:17 PM »
In AH the -1 has a noticeably harsher stall than the 1D (at least to me).  I find the gentler stall, better accel and climb of the 1D makes it more useful in the MA for me.

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