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Offline Rude

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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2000, 09:47:00 AM »
I think a couple of you guys hurt my feelings, I think

Look at it this way...I have flown the P-51 Mustang in three on-line sims over some 10 years. It is obviously my favorite ride

Now, I invite those of you who feel that a method of flying other than your own should be criticized, to take a 51 lo and slow on the deck and then let me know how much fun you've had.

It's all about the fun guys...besides, if it were not for those of you who made such easy targets, I'de never get a kill

Cyas Up!

Rude Out!

Offline milnko

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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2000, 11:35:00 AM »
Score is just not as important to me as protecting my wingman/countryman.
This is how I feel about it:

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Offline Jase

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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2000, 01:38:00 PM »
Well said DMF.  

Btw,....They keep score?  Huh, imagine that.  

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Offline Swager

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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2000, 02:10:00 PM »
I almost scored once,  then she slapped me!

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Offline Voss

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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2000, 03:35:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:
People who fly solely for score tend to fly  conservatively.  Flying conservatively means engaging ONLY with an advantage, or at least without a disadvantage.  Since score accumulates faster through living, generally it is in the best interest of a score-seeker to avoid any hairy situations and engage enemies only at his or her discretion.  Back in Air Warrior, there was a fellow who took this creed to extremes, even to the point where he would run from a 1v1 if he had a 10k alt advantage... he would either drag or run until the lower enemy engaged another plane, at which point he would swoop down for the "skillful" kill.  Clearly, not all score-interested players take it to this extreme, but some degree of conservative flying is essential for score accumulation.

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Those are my thoughts anyway.    

-- Todd/DMF

That pretty much describes me.   At 3fps (in those days) it was easier to hit planes that were busy. However, I *never* ran with a 10k alt advantage. I *did* apply Richthofens ROE, though.

As to AH, it's not the score, it's the life! I'll do anything to break the 5:1 k/d (won't happen for quite awhile I think), EXCEPT fly for 20 minutes just to die to an alt warrior. It's too easy to *be* an alt warrior!  



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Offline Westy

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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2000, 03:38:00 PM »

I'm curious.  Are you the 'TAS'  "Voss"?

   -Westy

Offline Kieren

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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2000, 04:02:00 PM »
hehe, I think the same thing every time I see that name...  

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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2000, 07:48:00 PM »
Fun!?Fun??
Who needs fun, when you can get that immense adrenaline kick of spotting 2 high Hogs coming in on you, after that lonely kill.

And all you want is to live..

Ahh I forgot: its only to press the "Fly" button..

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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2000, 08:20:00 PM »
 
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Well; I find furballin is fun.. it's one of the 'big attractions' here at AH. It's the dyin part is the objectionable bit. I try to avoid that.

Rgr Hang...I gotta agree.  Im a true adrenaline junkie.  Nothing gets me going like entering into a furball and seeing how many kills I can rack up before I die or try to egress.  Scores are great because its a form of a measuring stick by which you can guage your progress.  They dont mean squat because of the way scoring works since many of the best sticks I have faced (like Towd and Verm) dont waste time buffing to build their scores so that they fall on the top 100 list.  There are many pilots on that top 100 list I would scratch for these types of pilots.

Now, I would consider myself someone who *DOES* pay attention to his score yet I do not consider myself a cautious pilot....many of my wingies have berated me for entering fites where we were out-E'd.      I have even been known to give up alt to try to get a higher plane to engage.   Rather than use scores to boost your esteem, use them as a way to see how you have improved from the previous tour of duty.  

I've improved since B1...Have you?  

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« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2000, 08:22:00 PM »
 
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High scores are attained by fighting from alt, always with the upper hand, and running like a little girl when the odds get even, or worse.

*COUGH_BS_COUGH*

Read my previous post.  I am trying not to take insult with this, but there are some of us who enter fites without a perceptible advantage.  This sounds like sour grapes to me.    No Offense of course.

-Ding

Offline easymo

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« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2000, 09:01:00 PM »
  Been doing some testing on scoreing. shoot down a fighter and ditch next to base. ck score.

 shoot down a fighter. ditch. get captured. ck score.

 ect. ect.

 Still cant make much sense of it. I will say that ditching on the runway seems to be a big no, no. Put your wheels down boys.

Offline danish

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« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2000, 04:04:00 AM »
Easymo: ugh!
Can anyone confirm this?I've had this habit of belly landing.Much faster, and its only taxpayers money ;=)

danish

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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2000, 11:48:00 AM »
With all the discussion going on about safe vs ferocious "fly til dead" tactics, I thought I would add my $.0002.

What bugs me a bit about the latter attitude is the seemingly disregard for realism, one of the main reasons I like flight SIMULATORS. I try to fight as if this was real; which means when i get low on fuel, I head for home. If outnumbered, I leg it, grab alt, and come back. I will attack when outnumbered if I have alt or co E in the 109, if ever so briefly.

But, when these guys who just hang around and chanse you with 10% fuel well knowing they won't make it home appear, I get a little irritated. it isn't in the spirit true to real life. It is really removing a lot of the immersion this sim has.

Sure, sometimes I go for a crazy 1v4 outnumbered out alted out e'd, but in 90% of my fling time, i fly as if I was there, with one life only.


My scores are already messed up (28! disconnects) so I don't care about them. I do, however, care about immersion and "realism", however elusive that is. What I am saying is: fly like the dudes back then did. Imagine it's your life on the line.

That'll take care of the HO dweebery too. And, no, it doesn't necessarily take two to HO. Sometimes, you are put in such an disadvantage UNLESS you go for the HO, because you waste E and alt avoiding this HO'ing dweeb. In certain circumstances, UNLESS you HO, you're outta e, outta alt, outta ideas, and the HO dweeb knows this. Nevertheless, I avoid HO's as much as possible, even though it means disadvantage/have to leg it.

It's a very good sim  . Fly like you like, this is just my personal opinion.

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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2000, 12:14:00 PM »
I think we all go thru stages...back when I started I was so bad any kill was a miracle (still feel that way some days). Then I found the 190 in AW...all of a sudden I CAN SCORE...a few months of bliss...then you start to realize how limited you are.

So you grow,..in AW my inspiration came from Vet and 82nd (old RR squad)...very arrogant, but very good. Took me almost a year to kill him 1 on 1 in a fair fight. Then on to FR, a whole new curve...HR,RM,Big-T and a host of other's...

Anyway I've had more great fights here in AH then anywhere. To me nothing beats a good 1-2 or 2-3 win or lose. The gangbang stuff always will get old, but it's a part of the game.

Best fun I've had here so far was about 6 weeks ago..ran into DMF off to the side of MA by 2 I think...anyway bet we had 4-5 good 1 on 1's...think I lost everyone...but what a blast..couple went for 3-4 min (an eternity). No setup 10k stuff, just find and fight. Right now he's my Vet, one day  ...thats the score that will count to me.

Big-T worked on hogs with me a little at AW99...right before I moved to AH..I was tooling along near Tin/Ran in me Hog and in barreled a Hog from 5k up...I used everything Big-T and I talked about...finally got a chance..chopped, popped and ruddered around..and zap..got rewarded with a clean couple pings and smoke...and red screened bout 5 sec later. Was Big-T ...did he kill me yes...did I have a lot of fun, for sure..he told me it was best fight he'd had in a month...I told him it was best fight I'd ever had .

To me thats why you play, for that special fight that comes along once in a great while.


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« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2000, 12:38:00 PM »
I know what ya mean..........right now I'm a gunnin fer Ripsnort, seems he is like 4 and 0 on me, now, I'm not a good stick, hell, ALL my kills are LUCKY SHOTS, but someday, I will hang Ripsnort's scalp from my lodge pole......  
Think your name is gonna be on that plaque?

 

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