Bomb-proof Hangars ???

[Maxopti1]

Hi to all.

You excuse the my bad English, but I hope that you are able to understand.
Does anybody have been able to demolish the Hangars from when they have stayed modified?
I have tried to do him, I have begun to target, 6 1000 Lb. bombs.  
But, the hangars were still intact, like if nothing is.    
How must I do for demolish them, does a way exist?
Or, do you think that they now are too many hard?

Any suggestion?  

Cheers.

Maxopti1

[Rude]

Hiyas!

It now takes 3 1000lb bombs per hanger...try it and you will be successful

Rude Out!

[popeye]

If you are bombing from a level bomber, and using the SALVO to release multiple bombs on one drop, you must set the DELAY to .05, and fly as slowly as possible to keep all the bombs on the target.

At 200 mph TAS (the red line on the airspeed indicator), and a DELAY of .05, there will be  a space of about 15 feet between each bomb dropped in the salvo.

So, if you are flying too fast, or have too long a DELAY, some of the bombs in a salvo may be missing the target.

popeye


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[Fury]

I tried last night to drop three 1,000lb bombs on each hangar on a fighter base.  

Salvo option was set to three with default delay.  (radio buffer, type .salvo 3)  Salvo drops all three nearly at once instead of having to press the release key three times.

Dropping in a north-south direction on Fighter Hangars at a small field, the hangars are right next to each other.  I thought I was real close to dead on with both drops.  As it turns out I missed at least one bomb if not all three on one of the hangars and I did destroy the second hangar with my remaining three 1000lbs.

Battle damage assesment is sometimes tough from my bomber but since there were no enemies near enough to me, I had time to look.  My first drop missed two out of three -- there were two craters oh-so-close to the building, but not enough of a direct hit to drop it.

So yes, it is possible to drop hangars with three 1000lb bombs, but they must be extremely accurate drops and all three probably have to hit the target and not just come close.

Fury

[Ripsnort]

In addition to the comments  above, it also helps to line up so that  you are releasing (the first of 3) at a corner of the building, thus, you are cutting across from corner to corner, insuring that the last bomb with come in contact with the building.

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[miko2d]

 This is ridiculous. The bombers in RL did not plan their 8+ hour strikes in such way that they could fly across a selected building diagonally and hit it with three bombs. You have tactical dive bombers for pinpoint work. The level bombers performed area bombing.
 We should ask HTC to improve the blast effects and the accumulation of the damage so that the realistic actions bring realistic results.
miko--

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by miko2d:
This is ridiculous. The bombers in RL did not plan their 8+ hour strikes in such way that they could fly across a selected building diagonally and hit it with three bombs. You have tactical dive bombers for pinpoint work. The level bombers performed area bombing.
 

Yes, and  more  than once  they had  to go back over and hit the same target, again, and again.  Hmm, the same now applies here! What a concept!

Personally, I think everythings fine, *maybe* make the rebuild time 20 min instead of 15, but our squad has changed our OPS plan to suite the changes in AH, and we have  no problems bombing, capturing fields.

[Swager]

Actually, 2-1000 lbs bombs would cause great havoc to a hanger.  

Last night it took 3-1000lbs. to down a hanger. It that Okay?  Yea!  I guess.  It will take multiple bombers to down a field.   Espically a larger field.  A23 is a pain!    

I kinda like it now.  More difficult to capture airfield.  More coordination is required.  

I still like Aces High alittle!    

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[Pyro]

It's not really a question of realism.  The question isn't how many bombs it should take to blow up a hangar, it's how many bombs does it take to disable an airfield.



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Perfect plans, aren't.

[Hangtime]

And; Pyro; the answer is???

[CavemanJ]

that depends on how you want it disabled Hang.

No planes launching at all? 9 1k eggs on small (2ftr 1bmr) and medium (2bmr 1ftr) hangers.

Keep fighters from that field from supporting another field under attack?  1 500lb'er for each fuel tank on that field (they ain't goin nowhere for 30min).

No bombers launching to hit targets?  1 500lb'er for each ammo dump on the target field.  Though with the hangers in play now this may let the buffs up with 100lb eggs, haven't checked it out to see.  But killing these bunkers will prevent JABOs from launching, which can be a big help.

No goons from the target field?  1 500lb'er for each barracks building.

Just because we can kill hangers now dinnae mean the old strategy of taking a field out of action went away.  It is still very possible for a single B-17 to remove a field from the action for 30 minutes (unless you're trying to take the target field).

Watch the help board for another of my books on strat soon  

[Maxopti1]

Thank you to all for your answers.  

I have done 2 counts for estimate, how many people needed for take up a field protected from at least 5/6 fighter.  

1 Bomber for Fighters Hangars.
1 Bomber for Bomber Hangar and Carts.
1 Bomber for ack and fuel.
1 Bomber for tower and the other structures
1 Bomber like substitute in case of failure of the first throwing or of loss of one of the Bomber during the transfer.

5 fighter of escort for the bombers
5 fighter for aerial superiority
2 Thiphoon for the carts and the M16

1 or 2 C47 for goonie

Result:

18 airplanes for take a field defended from 5/6 fighters.    

This one because, the Hangars, they remain inactive, for once too limited.  

Yesterday I have tried the times, once performed the bombardment and destroyed the Hangars, the necessary time to return back, leave again and be in position for a new strike, was exactly the necessary one to the Hangars for be regenerated.  

Aaaarrrghhhhh. the life is becoming hard.

Cheers.

Max

 

[Ripsnort]

This is how we've done bombing: (Medium field)
~(2) bombers for Hangars and Vehicle Depot(Thats 2 hangars for 1 bomber, 1 hangar and Depot for the other bomber)

~(1) bomber w/500lbers for  ack (9 ack I believe)

~(3) escort fighters

~(1) C47

All arriving on target together, for a total  of 7 A/C (Hell, you don't even  need  the fighters  if the field is undefended, so you could do  it with as little as 3 bombers and 1 C47)

Always helps to have  (1) of the escort fighters heavy for a possible miss from a bomber.

[LLv34_Camouflage]

"18 airplanes for take a field defended from 5/6 fighters."

This sounds correct.  The rule of thumb in military operations is that the attacker must have three times the amount of forces compared to the defender.

But like Ripsnort says, usually the capture can be accomplished with much smaller forces.

It all boils down to coordination and team play!

Camo  

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