New CV Strike aircraft (only 2 choices)

[Jester]

WELL BE THAT WAY THEN!!!! GANG UP ON ME!!!

I DON"T HAVE TO TAKE THIS!! I GET ENOUGH OF THIS FROM MY SQUADRON! I'M LEAVING!!!!  (stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp - SLAM!)

I hope you get your GRACE Brady, the Japanese CV force needs SOMETHING that will lug a bomb or tordonut to make the PTO interesting. Their CV's are really nothing more than "targets" at this time.

Doubt we will though - HTC has a "WOODIE" for the ETO. We'll have "every" model of the Spitfire INCLUDEING the prototype before we get a decent PTO plane set.l

If you DO get your GRACE, I better get a HELLDIVER or there is gonna be TROUBLE!  LOL!

[Steven]

Who ever tries to torpedo a CV in the MA anyway?  All I see are jabo suicide runs or high altitude bombers.  I see no problem in developing the early-war planeset.   Kate and Val get my votes.

[brady]

LOL Andijg:)

 
    I have seen queit a few brave soles try and torpedo a CV in the main, of course they rarely make it....

[Tracer-15]

we could use a dive bomber....either the SBD Dauntless or the D3A Val or D4Y Judy........THAT would be a good improvement.....who torps CV's from planes anyway;)

[brady]

Well dive bomber's and dive bombing will be more appealing when we get the new bomber update i would think, plaens like the JU 88 that can still deleaver large bomb loads accurately will be more important.

          Still other than their bomb load out they are lightly armed.

[spitfiremkv]

I want the SB2C Helldiver! I like that plane,it's a big fat monster that's hard to fly. It's exactly what we need in AH:cool:

[bioconscripter]

Why can't we have both?

[BUG_EAF322]

Iwant the swordfish but that might be to uber to ask for.
let's have a sink the bismarck scenario

[oboe]

My first choices were Judy and Jill, followed by SB2C.

But Brady makes an excellent argument, and for MA utility, the
Grace would definitely get my vote over the Firefly.

I really do hope they continue to flesh out the late-war PTO planeset before turning their talents and resources to early war.

[Charon]

How about the Fairey Fulmar?
8ball

OK! But only if we add the Blackburn Skua in the same patch. But then, if you add te Skua then you could add the Roc rather easily since they shared the same airframe

Charon

[ergRTC]

Brady, who on earth would dogfight in the MA with a torpedo bomber?  The front guns are pointless.  People use the ju88, oh and they try to dogfight, but I dont think they ever expect the results to be anything but a  slow turning death.

The kate would be  a great addition, little tiny pea shooter up front, turns like a bat out of hell (at low speed I think it even handles better than the zeke), and it is very relevant for the CT (carrier based), and would add depth to the MA (hey, the last planes were the hurri 1 and spit 1, and the 110 [I am ignoring the spit 14 cause pyro spilled coffee on his keyboard and that plane popped out...yawn] so maybe the MA isnt such a big factor on plane selection).  The last thing the PTO needs is japanese torp bombers that can outrun all american fighters at low alt but the p51 (which we never get).

[Vermillion]

Who said the grace could outrun the P-51? Its maximum speed is like 360 mph at altitude, on the deck its much slower.

The point ergRTC, is that the Grace would like a Kate on steroids.  Very good turner, great acceleration, and good guns, plus the ability to carry that all important torp.    Somewhat like a zeke with a torp.

So basically you get to carry that torpedo, and then fight off that never ending horde of Seafires that tend to swarm around the CV's in AH.  It would be a very fun and useful MA torpedo plane.

For scenario's the Judy and the Jill would be much preferable over the Kate and the Val, since they fit in better with the rest of the midwar to latewar planeset we currently have for the PTO.  

If you want to go early war, with the Kate and Val, we would need too many fighters we don't have, such as the early zeke, Ki43, F4F, P40, P38F, and the P39.

[ergRTC]

Yeah I guess your right verm, just in AW the Kate stood its own ground pretty well.  Val was a joke of course (the japanese stuka).  

Okay grace it is.  What were the numbers like anyway?  Was the Kate more common in 43?

[brady]

Well said Vermillion:)


 
 Antoer poit about the Grace that has yet to be touched on is this.
 
 The Grace was an atack bomber, eiter a torpedo bomber or a bomber, it was intended that it would replace the Jill, and the Juddy on Japanese cariers.

 Realy the torpedo aspect is a seconday one in AH, Carier aircraft more often than not atack Airfields, so having a plane that can come in with the ordance and then ack to cap the base is a great asset.

 Also with it supeurb handeling and forward firepower I would imagine you would see it used more often than the TBM.

[bioconscripter]

Ju-88 would be great!